Paul:
Heck if they (application programmer) wanted to create their own
CSI's and maintain it for application code go for it. I don't think
IBM would be equipped to handle application types calling them on the
1-800 number though. If you want the systems group to handle call's
better hire another sysprog.
ED
On Jul 23, 2013, at 6:35 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
On Tue, 23 Jul 2013 16:05:34 -0500, Ed Gould wrote:
Sigh... there is "installed" and then there is INSTALLED. No
application programmer would/should be granted access to update to
any system library if that is what you complaining about too bad, If
you are talking SMPE Again the smpe libraries are essentially keys.
Now they are OK for an auditor or management to READ them but NOT for
lowly programmers. If you want SMPE for the average joe programmer
again the answer should be NO. There are some things (albiet few
things) that application should not be using.
Elitism. SMP/E should be just a tool to be used with appropriate
protection of resources. Until about 3 years ago, the fact was
(believed to be) that with proper data set protection SMP/E was no
more dangerous than any other tool. You seem to be asserting that
use of SMP/E should be restricted to an elite cadre, but in your
previous submission:
On Tue, 23 Jul 2013 15:14:10 -0500, Ed Gould wrote:
... We had one person that work from home and she installed a
product and it utterly failed as she show horned it in rather than
following the install via smp/e (after all she worked from home cough
cough cough).
Nobody could figure out how to implement it (nobody wanted to touch
it as it was installed haphazard. The product never got used and
several thousand dollars went down the drain.
Was this before or after the sea change of 3 years ago? In those
happy
days gone by, she would have needed no more permissions to use SMP/E
than to perform the "shoehorn" installation. I don't know her job
description. Would she nowadays be granted the extraordinary
privileges
required to use SMP/E? Was she applications or systems?
-- gil
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