I stand edified. Had not seen the inverse, which I feel is kind of unusual. In 
general, when a field is governed by a length indicator, it seems that most 
often the length comes first. In this case, since the overall field itself is 
fixed, it doesn't much matter where you put the length. Maybe an EXecute MVC or 
CLC is a tad simpler if the thing being handled comes first. In any case, 
finding room for an 8th meaningful character is going to be a massive 
undertaking. Besides OA51203 (which looks like Omegamon), there are going to be 
a ton of supporting APARs.

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-----Original Message-----
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Of David Cole
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2017 12:22 PM
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Subject: (External):Re: Eight-character TSO Userid Support

At 2/6/2017 02:51 PM, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote:
"In one sense, TSO userids have always 'tied up' 8 bytes, but the first byte by 
convention has always been the length of the actual userid in the next 7 
characters. This structure is utterly pervasive throughout TSO(/E). Not just 
IBM processes but countless RYO and third party processes as well. Even the 
structure of UADS for a user is set of multiple members named as userid+digit, 
which requires an id of 7 characters or less."

Uh no. In a couple of major TSO cblocks, it's a 7 character field FOLLOWED by 
the length field...

Examples:

PSCBUSER DS    CL7      USERID PADDED RIGHT WITH 
BLANKS                 03-IKJPSCB
PSCBUSRL DS    CL1      LENGTH OF 
USERID                                03-IKJPSCB

and

UPTPREFX DS    CL7      DSNAME 
PREFIX                            Y02669 03-IKJUPT
UPTPREFL DS    BL1      LENGTH OF DSNAME 
PREFIX                  Y02669 03-IKJUPT

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