My customer tested this solution and will start using this solution in 
production the weekend of 10 June.  We too asked if the Linux server 
couldn"t run under z/VM...
We will not use the PROP user they provide: a VMOPER action routine 
directly issues the SMSG's  to the "IP talking" service machine.  It was 
just too simple to not to use the extra PROP server.

Kris,
IBM Belgium, VM customer support




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Odd... we're installing a Sun/STK VTS here, and we fully expect z/VM to 
work with it.  Getting it to work is lots more complex than installing 
RMSMASTR and having VM:Tape work with IBM's VTS.  (I used to think *that* 
was hokey -- live and learn). 

The Sun/STK solution is significantly (and needlessly) more convoluted. 
 We have not started the Sun/STK installation on the z/VM system yet (z/OS 
needs it first, and will get it first), but my current understanding is 
that it requires PROP (or VM:Operator) action routines, a CMS service 
machine that talks "IP" to a Linux server.  The Linux box will talk over 
IP to a started task on a z/OS system.  The z/OS system started task 
application talks directly to the Sun/STK VTS.  All that to simply get the 
robot in the VTS to finally move (the actual data will flow over FICON).   
 

Sun/STK tells me that the Linux server should be Redhat (Fedora?) Linux on 
a Solaris box.  I told them no way!; we will install a SuSE Linux virtual 
machine (just like all the other Linux on zSeries servers we plan) in the 
same z/VM system that needs access to the Sun/STK VTS.  No firewalls.  No 
routers.  No problems.   

OTOH, Sun/STK will have to support their application in that environment. 
 They want our money, they need to support our environment.  We'll see how 
that all pans out.  Man plans, God laughs. 

Mike Walter
Hewitt Associates
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Our data center is eliminating an STK tape silo and implementing STK's 
Virtual Tape product.  They tell me that there is no interface from VM for 
STK Virtual Tape.  The data center manager wants to know if we could take 
DB2/VM backups from MVS (shared dasd environment).  Our DBA has suggested 
the alternate solution (below) for DB2/VM backups. 

Has anyone got experience with doing DB2/VM backups in such an environment 
or care to comment on either proposed solution?
  
Terry A. Moore 
Proj Mgr - IT Infrastructure 


Terry,     
    Here is the problem.   We have several VM for DB2 database servers.   
Currently they use vmbackup to take database and log backups using the 
tape silo.   The tape silo is being replaced by a virtual tape 
machine(from STK).   VM cannot talk to the virtual tape machine so 
utilizing that is not an option.   My thoughts currently are to take a 
weekly backup of all the DB2 for VM database machines data disk utilizing 
a FAT tape(s) and throughout the week take log backups for the database 
machines that do online updating.   I am still trying to test this 
scenario to make sure it will work.  
 
    Currently, we use a product called VM:DBA from CA that allows us to 
automate all the backups so no operator intervention is required.  In 
order to use FAT tape(s) to backup all the databases at one time, I will 
create a vmbackup template that will have all the databases data disks and 
then it will be submitted via an exec by VM:DBA after all the databases 
have been brought down.   The problem here is VM:DBA will not be able to 
track when the backups are done and keep track of the volume serial 
numbers use in the backup process so the restore process will now have to 
a more manual process outside of the VM:DBA product.   Also, a routine to 
bring the databases back online after the backup is done will need to 
created.       
           
  



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