It doesn't really matter, other than how the ipl failure message is displayed. On bare metal, at least on our 9672 vintage machine (7060-H55), ipling on bare metal will make the HMC screen turn red. On 2nd level, you see the IPL unit failure message on the screen. Our D/R dumps are done on MVS using ADRDSSU, so I end up ipling 5 times to get to the S/A ICKDSF and then another 7 times to get to the S/A ADRDSSU program. The ipl failures are the VOL label, the HDR labels, I guess the EOF label.

Jim

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How do you IPL the tape?  Bare metal or 2nd level?
Steve G.




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I call this Psuedo-standard labels because of the lack of HDR1, EOF1, EOV

labels. This has worked well enough for at least 12 years of successful
Disaster Recovery exercises. The only problem I have hit is remembering t
o
IPL the tape drive twice to get to my standalone DDR program that leads m
y
sysres backup.

With 3590 tapes and being able to stack multiple backups on a single tape
 it
would be nice if DDR understood REAL standard labels.

/Tom Kern

On Wed, 7 Jun 2006 16:28:35 -0400, George Haddad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>I would like to DDR DUMP to standard label (3480-XF) tapes.
>For reasons I won't go into here, I plan to "manually" define the
>extents to be dumped to each tape, so DDR's multi-volume tape handling
>is not an issue.
>So is there any more to it than writing a VOL1 hdr, starting at the load

>point,  then doing the DDR dump with a SKIP 1 on OUTPUT?
>
>For example, in a CMS environment, would this be correct ?
>
>1) Write a VOL1 label to the tape
>              TAPE WVOL1 volser userid (XF
>              TAPE WTM 2
>
>2)  Boot a Standalone DDR
>
>3) Mount the tape labeled in Step 1
>
>4)  DDR dump:
>         INPUT nnnn 3390 volser
>         OUTPUT mmmm 3480 (SKIP 1 MODE XF
>         SYSPRINT CONS
>         DUMP start-cyl TO end-cyl
>
>Is the WTM needed after the WVOL1 to mark the end-of-tape?
>
>Does writing a VOL1 header w/o HDR1 cause any problems?
>
>Is it really this straightforward?
>
>Any gotchas I should be aware of (other than multi-tape DDR dumps, which

>as I said, won't be an issue in my case)?
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labels. This has worked well enough for at least 12 years of successful<br>
Disaster Recovery exercises. The only problem I have hit is remembering t<br>
o<br>
IPL the tape drive twice to get to my standalone DDR program that leads m<br>
y<br>
sysres backup. <br>
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With 3590 tapes and being able to stack multiple backups on a single tape<br>
 it<br>
would be nice if DDR understood REAL standard labels.<br>
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/Tom Kern<br>
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On Wed, 7 Jun 2006 16:28:35 -0400, George Haddad &lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]&gt; wrote:<br>
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&gt;I would like to DDR DUMP to standard label (3480-XF) tapes.<br>
&gt;For reasons I won't go into here, I plan to &quot;manually&quot; define the<br>
&gt;extents to be dumped to each tape, so DDR's multi-volume tape handling<br>
&gt;is not an issue.<br>
&gt;So is there any more to it than writing a VOL1 hdr, starting at the load<br>
<br>
&gt;point, &nbsp;then doing the DDR dump with a SKIP 1 on OUTPUT?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;For example, in a CMS environment, would this be correct ?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;1) Write a VOL1 label to the tape<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;TAPE WVOL1 volser userid (XF<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;TAPE WTM 2<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;2) &nbsp;Boot a Standalone DDR<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;3) Mount the tape labeled in Step 1<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;4) &nbsp;DDR dump:<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; INPUT nnnn 3390 volser<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; OUTPUT mmmm 3480 (SKIP 1 MODE XF<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; SYSPRINT CONS<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; DUMP start-cyl TO end-cyl<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;Is the WTM needed after the WVOL1 to mark the end-of-tape?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;Does writing a VOL1 header w/o HDR1 cause any problems?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;Is it really this straightforward?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;Any gotchas I should be aware of (other than multi-tape DDR dumps, which<br>
<br>
&gt;as I said, won't be an issue in my case)?<br>
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