It's a good idea for everyone to get their feet wet.  But no, don't give
them maint privs unless they are doing work that specifically requires
that.  Also, don't replicate MAINT for every privileged "user".


VM has a history of user oriented interactive work.  (Forgive me for
repeating things you already know.)  The interactive component is CMS and
each CMS user must have his own virtual machine.  The fact that you can
reboot that virtual machine to run other operating systems (like Linux,
z/OS, or even second level z/VM) makes it just that much more fun!!  The
trick will be to get your team familiar with those VM commands which they
will use going forward, things which will make their jobs easier.


I am always tempted to try and translate TSO concepts into CMS (or CMS
concepts into Unix/POSIX/Linux).  Sometimes that helps, but there is no
substitute for learning the real nature of the system you are learning.  So
... comparing ISPF to XEDIT to 'vi' is not all that constructive, but
comparing  Q ALLOC SPOOL  and  Q ALLOC PAGE  to  'df'  might be.


-- R; <><




On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 10:21 AM, Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR) <
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>  Hi
>
>
>
> I am working on the z/VM z/Linux  POC.  I have set up z/VM for this POC and
> have come a rather long way in a few months. I have an administrative
> question in terms of z/VM.
>
>
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> Now that I got VM up and stable I am getting requests from the z/OS system
> folks to have user ids created. From what I can tell it does not seem to
> make much sense in the VM world to have everyone with a user id, because
> frankly not sure what must folks would do with them. In order to come up
> with a user that for instance has MAINT power I would need to basically
> duplicate MAINT correct?
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> Anyway, do you normally set up VM like TSO on z/VM, that is have all of
> these user ids out there?
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> *Thank You,*
>
>
>
> *Terry Martin*
>
> *Lockheed Martin - Information Technology*
>
> *z/OS & z/VM Systems - Performance and Tuning*
>
> *Cell - 443 632-4191*
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> *Work - 410 786-0386*
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