Hello Adam,

        I was part of the developers group.  I thought it was neat that
you could.  But there were some major problems running
Hercules-VM/ESA-VSE/ESA.  I did learn lots.

        But IBM was extremely hostile.

Ed Martin
Aultman Health Foundation
330-363-5050
ext 35050

-----Original Message-----
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On
Behalf Of Adam Thornton
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 9:59 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: z/VM 6.1 and Hercules on Z9

On Jul 29, 2009, at 8:48 AM, Edward M Martin wrote:

> Hello Adam,
>
>       I can say that I was told, in no uncertain terms, from IBM
> that it is illegal to run VM/ESA and up under Hercules.
>
>       That was a while back, and things may have changed but I have
> never
> seen anything to the contrary.
>
>       Hey, IBM what is your stand on Hercules?

Your answer was probably complicated by the fact that when you asked  
the question, IBM very likely assumed an implied "on commodity  
hardware."

So I think we need to ask a followup question: "...on Hercules, when  
running in a z/Linux image, underneath an instance of z/VM on the  
processor or processors to which that version z/VM is licensed."

Certainly no one ever told me what I was doing on my H70 was illegal.   
A lot of people asked me questions that implied that they thought I  
was an idiot or at least insane--which, you know, from a performance  
standpoint, well, yeah, guilty as charged--but no one said that I  
shouldn't run my copy of z/VM at about 1/100th speed if that was what  
I really wanted to do.

Adam

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