Kris:

I don't understand why we cannot interface with JAVA on the client side 
with z/VM and CMS as the server side functionally equivalent to PHP or CGI 
or ASP, maybe even run PHP, CGI, and/or ASP on z/VM, CMS..

There is no magic in these things and with your expertise and the talent 
here it should be doable. 





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"KRIS was working on some GUI for z/VM"

That's too much expectations.

CMS GUI: was introduced in 1995/1996 (VM/ESA 2.4).  TSO used the same 
software to replace the 3270 ISPF screens with GUI screens.  The 
underlying thing is DT, Distributed Toolkit.  The logic can run on system 
A, the presentation on system B. Was suppose no to be limited to VM and 
MVS, but also on Windows, OS/2, AIX, etc.  Great idea, but too late, Java 
became the thing that runs everywhere.
There was also a visual GUI builder, it was supposed to be able to create 
not only the GUI panels, but also the program's logic.  The WSA GUI 
Builder program that can be found now only does the first part, and the 
Windows 95 version fails on modern Windows.  The OS/2 version runs fine.

I think I can indeed be called "the" CMS/GUI specialist: I was lucky to be 
able to participate in the creation of a CMS GUI redbook: SC24-2542.  So I 
learned it and created subroutines to make using it easier from REXX.  
Later, as the WSA GUI Builder was stopped too, I created my GUIWIRE tool 
that helps to create the program logic.

CMS GUI is no longer supported, and some pieces of it are no longer 
delivered with z/VM, and must be downloaded from VM's download library.  
But, if you do you can:
- install and start the WSA on you workstation
- issue SET WORKSTAT IP x.x.x.x
- issue CMSDESK
And you get some GUI for basic CMS usage.

On the VM download lib, you can find various CMS/GUI tools I created, all 
in REXX, and -apart from CPQUERY- with "GUI" in their name.  The only 
things I still work on every now and then are:
- CPQUERY: when someone tells me about a bug
- PTKGUI: a tool to make graphs of Perfkit Summary files, such as the %CP 
used and %CPU wait of a given user.
  But, PTKGUI is still not ready, maybe a beta version will go to the 
download lib the coming days.

2010/12/13 George Henke/NYLIC <george_he...@newyorklife.com>
In our *stuck on GUI* discussion, I though it was said that KRIS was 
working on some GUI for z/VM, possibly CMS GUI? 

If so, maybe we can resurrect the CMS pig with some lipstick. 



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Unfortunately,  I must agree.  There is so much talent out there that
just needs an outlet and systems to work on.

Ed Martin
Aultman Health Foundation
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