On 08-Feb-07, at 10:57 AM, Janani Gopalakrishnan wrote:

> Hi all!
>
> First off, let me tell you that I had and have no intention of  
> jumping into
> this debate,

unfortunately you *have* jumped in

> though I've been quietly watching it since the thread started.
> Second, let me tell you that I'm pro-OSS but not anti-Microsoft and  
> that's
> not abnormal...

highly abnormal

> many won't admit it if you do a "+1" voting here but I bet
> there are quite a few people here who take a balanced view of both
> proprietary and open source software. What works, works.

if by 'balanced view' you mean neutral, very few people here are  
neutral. If they were, they wouldnt be here. It is the neutral people  
who take 'balanced views' and usualy keep quiet who are responsible  
for most of the trouble this planet is in.
>
>
> "Isn't open source about being 'open', isn't it about a free  
> market, isn't
> is about giving everybody a chance, isn't it about higher talent  
> and ideals
> winning over lower ones, isn't it about people making their own  
> 'choices',

it isnt - it is a philosophy on how to make software. In fact, there  
is no democracy in the FOSS world. The best rule. One doesnt go  
around giving others a 'chance'. And if you dont like it, go  
elsewhere. And that is what this debate is about - we dont like melas  
sponsored by microsoft and we wont go there.

> then what is wrong in Microsoft participating?

because microsoft doesnt participate

> By trying to shut Microsoft
> away from the Linux world, aren't you shutting competition away,  
> and in a
> way playing at their own 'closed' game? To the best of my  
> understanding of
> 'openness' as a word (and not as any hi-fi tech term), if one wants  
> to fight
> Microsoft, the right way is to stand right next to them and prove  
> you are
> better! Put up a stall right next to theirs and say, 'Hey, here, our
> products are placed on a level playing field, next to each others',  
> now you
> judge for yourself, aren't the OSS offerings as good as Microsoft's?'"

so are you going to sponsor a FOSS stall in the next conference  
microsoft holds?
>
> Makes sense in an extremely earthy way, doesn't it?!

it doesnt. It is said that a little knowledge is a dangerous thing.  
Would your dad accept the opinions of a layman on an international  
debate on accounting standards to be adopted for the world? The  
'neutral' and 'balanced' people are precisely those who havent deeply  
studied or experienced the implications of the various differences  
between what FOSS/OSS stands for and what microsoft pushes. Simplest  
of examples - find a CSS person who does not tear his hair and curse  
microsoft on a daily basis. Ask your dad to check out groklaw -  
microsoft doesnt 'play the game' - they use every dirty trick they  
can to subvert the F/OSS movement.


-- 
regards

Kenneth Gonsalves
Associate, NRC-FOSS
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/




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