I tried that on my 2nd generation iMac G5 using Tiger. Gimp installs fine but then says that it requires Apples X11. I attempted to install the X11 user for Mac OS X but this installer says that newer software is installed. The problem is that I cannot find this "newer software". I tried looking for X11 using spotlight but so far cannot find it. I looked for X11 and X11.app NO Luck.
Any suggestions

On Dec 22, 2005, at 7:45 AM, David W Scott wrote:

I had a lot of problems getting X11 apps to even launch when I was using OS X 10.2.8 -- Apple developed X11 for Jaguar, but then deprecated it. X11 rarely worked and most apps bombed out. I have only had real success with X11 since buying a new iMac running 10.4. The original poster never indicated what version of OS X they were running, or what version of X11 they had installed.


Assuming you are running 10.4, then the simplest way to run The GIMP is this:

GIMP.APP
http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/unix_open_source/gimpapp.html

GIMP.APP is a compiled binary that delivers the fastest, most mac- like way to install and run The GIMP.

When downloading and running GIMP.APP, I would never know it's an X11 application if not for the ugly interface and bouncing X11 in my dock.


Dave


On 22-Dec-05, at 4:55 AM, Tim Stephens wrote:

On Thu, Dec 22, 2005 at 12:46:55AM -0500, Charles Martin wrote:

My son is trying to load Gimp but it says it needs Apple X11. We've
downloaded X11 and tried to install it but it fails, saying there
is newer software on the computer. Where, and how do we load it?

As others have mentioned, /Applications/Utilities/X11.app
When I run the GIMP (which I installed with Fink), I start X11 by double-clicking it, then run it from the xterm that opens by typing 'gimp' and pressing return. (You can also add items to the 'Applications' menu in X11 so that you don't have to type.

If you have a different Mac Port (and it sounds like you do), try running X11 and then starting the GIMP.



Unless you and your son are exceptionally geeky, this gimp/x11 thing
ain't for you. You'll spend FAR more time and effort on IT than on
the actual end product you were trying to accomplish in the first
place (ex. editing a photo).


GIMP is an excellent piece of software. It has a lot of the functionality of Photoshop, without the added (monetary) cost. Many people prefer the interface of the GIMP to Photoshop (although this is probably down to what you know). Although there is a learning curve, the interface is generally pretty well thought out (provided that you don't expect it to be just like your usual Mac software). Photoshop also has a learning curve...

I disagree strongly that you must be exceptionally geeky to try X11. Whilst it could be argued that I am a little geeky, I do not think that the installation of these things is difficult. I concede that installation is more complex than the usual drag and drop thing of installing a Mac app, it's certainly no more difficult than an installation on Windows, and 90% of the computing public manage just fine with that.

Get Photoshop Elements or Graphic Converter and don't waste your time

I haven't tried Elements, but GraphicConverter is nothing compared to the GIMP. It's role is to convert image formats along with a little bit of basic colorisation and cropping. The tools that GIMP offers are a closer match to something like Photoshop (although in many cases they are not as extensive as the ones that Adobe has --- I guess you'd expect that since Adobe's engineers are paid and the GIMP's are not).


Merry Christmas,
Tim

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