Thanks Jim.
On 10-10-07 9:47 PM, Jim Emery wrote:
Hi Walter,
Tina is correct. If the permissions in the Get Info window appear as
custom, this indicates that ACLs are in effect. You can check this in
the Terminal using the following commands:
cd /Volumes
ls -le
Access Control Lists provide more granular control of permissions than
POSIX permissions. Clearing ACLs is one of Apple's suggested methods
for file system troubleshooting.
On Oct 7, 2010, at 6:20 PM, gifutiger wrote:
Greetings Tina,
WOW removing all 'ACL's may not be the best thing to do, i.e.
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Technically seen, an ACL is a list of individual rights which can be
attached to a file system object. The ACL can either be empty -in this
case, only the conventional POSIX permissions apply-, or it can
contain one or more objects called Access Control Entries (ACEs). An
Access Control Entry includes the following information:
to which users does this entry apply (this can be an individual user
or a user group)?
does this entry allow or deny access?
which right in particular is allowed or denied, respectively?
how should this entry be inherited from a folder to the contents of
this folder?
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So what you've done is made all files and application available to all
users that can log into your platform.
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Clearing ACLs will not make all files and applications available to
all users that can log onto you platform. Clearing ACLs still leaves
POSIX permissions in effect.
If you were unable to make changes in the "get info" window then you
were not logged in as the platform owner.
As the owner has all privileges.
Or sometime you may not be able to make direct changes but need to
either add or delete one or more of those listed in the ownership
listing. If your log-in name isn't listed then you need to touch the +
button and add your name. If you are able to unlock the lock then you
should have privileges to add users.
The important thing is to make the "Ownership" of the locked disks the
same as the disk that you are logged as that is your main access
point.
ACLs cannot be defined or altered in the Finder. Trying to change the
permissions of files and folders with ACLs set will result in exactly
what you experienced. To remove ACLs, you need to use the terminal.
They can be removed on individual files or folders as well as
recursively. Details can be found in Mac OS X Support Essentials:
http://books.google.com/books?id=iAwgbkQeZYQC&pg=PA246&lpg=PA246&dq=apple.com:+clearing+acls&source=bl&ots=WoZb6hvb7p&sig=oK5vLbu4zbWCx4Uwtf_Z6sQ2DxM&hl=en&ei=UY-uTMnROIW6sQO7ktH9Aw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=5&ved=0CCYQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q&f=false
<http://books.google.com/books?id=iAwgbkQeZYQC&pg=PA246&lpg=PA246&dq=apple.com:+clearing+acls&source=bl&ots=WoZb6hvb7p&sig=oK5vLbu4zbWCx4Uwtf_Z6sQ2DxM&hl=en&ei=UY-uTMnROIW6sQO7ktH9Aw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=5&ved=0CCYQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q&f=false>
I believe you said the drives were at the Apple Store. I suspect they
will clear ACLs on the external disks to resolve the issue. I will be
curious to hear what they say.
Jim
Cheers
Harry
San Jose, Ca
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On Oct 6, 9:16 am, "Tina K." <penguir...@gmail.com> wrote:
On 2010/10/06 07:49, Walter Sheluk wrote:
Both of my External FireWire Drives were powered on and their icon's
were on the desktop ( iMac/3.06GHz/Snow Leopard ) when i decided for
some unknown reason to eject ( Command + I ) both drives to do a apple
software update/installation.
I just experienced something very similar only it wasn't my external
drives who's permissions got munged but my user folders - Desktop,
Documents, Downloads, Dropbox, etc… Strangely Get Info yielded either
"You can read & write" or "You have custom permissions" but no way to
change them in the get info window, and the ones that were allegedly
read write permissions would not let me actually write anything to the
folder.
The custom permissions message was my tip off. I googled 'remove acl
leopard' or something to that effect (ACL= access control list) and
removed all acl's via Terminal. This corrected my permissions problem,
but not until I had reboot.
FWIW, YMMV, ad nauseam.
Tina
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