That sofware seems very nice (http://www.mailstudio.com/)
But then again, at 5k for every 5000 users, we gona be
spending alot more money on software than i thought.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Len Conrad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2000 3:18 PM
Subject: Re: [imail] Free email service


> 
> >I start a free email service, within a year or so it grows to a point i
> >imail
> 
> Distinguish within the Imail "product line" what your selling because 
> POP3 mailbox access is very lightweight ( technical and human/support 
> resource consumption ) compared to HTTP access.  The mail machine is 
> more heavily solicited and the user mail sessions last longer with 
> HTTP mail than POP3/SMTP access.
> 
> >cant handle it anymore i cant really switch systems right?
> 
> Yes, you can always switch.  But it's not fun, so I recommend "over 
> buying" hardware now ( and the 24 x 7 logistics/spares to keep it 
> going) to push the inevitable hardware upgrade further into the future.
> 
> Imail7 better have a multi-box web mail solution or, I expect, a lot 
> of the Imail web messaging customers, with HotMail / FreeMail 
> wannabee dreams, are going to be running into a wall next year with a 
> one-box web mail Ipswitch server.
> 
> >I guess one of my questions is, is imail limited by only hardware?
> 
> HTTP web mail access doesn't scale as well as pop/smtp access.
> 
> We have all heard in the Imail list about single Imail machines with 
> 100K to 250K accounts. These are pop/smtp services, not web 
> messaging.  And the 250K + 25 gb.day guy was using a big SUN for 
> outgoing SMTP delivery (his Imail was not doing DNS lookups or 
> queuing deferred mail or doing remote deliveries), and he ran no web 
> access.  His Imail box was 95% idle.  It wouldn't be prudent to 
> expect your Imail web mail box with 50K accounts to be 95% idle.
> 
> Back of the envelope:
> 
> If the user load of 50 K user sessions of 2 minutes/session was 
> spread evenly throughout the day, you'd have about 70 simultaneous 
> web mail users 24 x 7. But of course, the load is very peaky, maybe 
> 3:1 or 4:1 or 6:1, (and two minutes isn't very long for daily webmail 
> per user), so 200 to 400 simultaneous mail users would be a peak 
> requirement for a 50K user web mail box.  hmmmm.  What box to buy?  :)))
> 
> Anybody here running 100 to 400 simultaneous web mail users?? on what 
> kind of box? What kind of stability?  SSL is available/user or 
> not?  Are my back-of-the-envelope calculations in the ballpark in 
> your experience?
> 
> >If its only hardware, not a problem,
> 
> oh, I see.  :))
> 
> >dont have a problem upgrading hardware every year or so, but i cant 
> >imagine moving all the users onto a new system.
> 
> "system" = Imail software precisely?  Yes, asking your users to 
> migrate to a totally different web interface would be a serious 
> "issue". I doubt whether you could find one as superb as Ron's AND 
> for the price (go price the very nice www.MailStudio.com unlimited 
> version) you can see that committing to Ron's templates is a 
> strategic committment because Ron's product is what your users see, 
> not Imail.  Users don't like change. (hey, Ron, nice business plan !!)
> 
> In fact, you should therefore realize that, if your primary product 
> is web mail, then Ron The Blushing Groom is your now your key 
> supplier of software, not Ipswitch.  Ron's software is now the more 
> valuable to "web mail providers" than any specific brand of 
> SMTP/mailbox server underneath.
> 
> Len
> 
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