Len:
Shhhhh! Don't tip ipswitch off until ron get all the cooperation he needs
:)
Those of us hotmail wantabees don't care where the solution comes from, we
just need a solution.
I bought imail many years ago (many) with the hotmail model in mind. They
were on the "cusp of a solution then" I got distracted for say 4 years and
now I am back and ipswitch is on the "cusp of a solution".
Ron seems to work fast from my point of view. When he tells me he is on the
cust of a solution and that he has a $2,000 alternative with his same
interface (can't scare the customers), i'll be there baby.
I have said it before, if all I wanted what a smtp/pop solution I would
never have bought imail in the 1st place. It's the webmail i need. That's
what makes them different (ok and its on an NT box).
I have looked at all alternative I can find and they are either priced way
out there or they lack what i need in features.
So, i sit and wait for ipswith or someone else to create a solution, then i
will pounce greedily.
Cheers :)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Len Conrad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2000 12:18 PM
Subject: Re: [imail] Free email service
>
> >I start a free email service, within a year or so it grows to a point i
> >imail
>
> Distinguish within the Imail "product line" what your selling because
> POP3 mailbox access is very lightweight ( technical and human/support
> resource consumption ) compared to HTTP access. The mail machine is
> more heavily solicited and the user mail sessions last longer with
> HTTP mail than POP3/SMTP access.
>
> >cant handle it anymore i cant really switch systems right?
>
> Yes, you can always switch. But it's not fun, so I recommend "over
> buying" hardware now ( and the 24 x 7 logistics/spares to keep it
> going) to push the inevitable hardware upgrade further into the future.
>
> Imail7 better have a multi-box web mail solution or, I expect, a lot
> of the Imail web messaging customers, with HotMail / FreeMail
> wannabee dreams, are going to be running into a wall next year with a
> one-box web mail Ipswitch server.
>
> >I guess one of my questions is, is imail limited by only hardware?
>
> HTTP web mail access doesn't scale as well as pop/smtp access.
>
> We have all heard in the Imail list about single Imail machines with
> 100K to 250K accounts. These are pop/smtp services, not web
> messaging. And the 250K + 25 gb.day guy was using a big SUN for
> outgoing SMTP delivery (his Imail was not doing DNS lookups or
> queuing deferred mail or doing remote deliveries), and he ran no web
> access. His Imail box was 95% idle. It wouldn't be prudent to
> expect your Imail web mail box with 50K accounts to be 95% idle.
>
> Back of the envelope:
>
> If the user load of 50 K user sessions of 2 minutes/session was
> spread evenly throughout the day, you'd have about 70 simultaneous
> web mail users 24 x 7. But of course, the load is very peaky, maybe
> 3:1 or 4:1 or 6:1, (and two minutes isn't very long for daily webmail
> per user), so 200 to 400 simultaneous mail users would be a peak
> requirement for a 50K user web mail box. hmmmm. What box to buy? :)))
>
> Anybody here running 100 to 400 simultaneous web mail users?? on what
> kind of box? What kind of stability? SSL is available/user or
> not? Are my back-of-the-envelope calculations in the ballpark in
> your experience?
>
> >If its only hardware, not a problem,
>
> oh, I see. :))
>
> >dont have a problem upgrading hardware every year or so, but i cant
> >imagine moving all the users onto a new system.
>
> "system" = Imail software precisely? Yes, asking your users to
> migrate to a totally different web interface would be a serious
> "issue". I doubt whether you could find one as superb as Ron's AND
> for the price (go price the very nice www.MailStudio.com unlimited
> version) you can see that committing to Ron's templates is a
> strategic committment because Ron's product is what your users see,
> not Imail. Users don't like change. (hey, Ron, nice business plan !!)
>
> In fact, you should therefore realize that, if your primary product
> is web mail, then Ron The Blushing Groom is your now your key
> supplier of software, not Ipswitch. Ron's software is now the more
> valuable to "web mail providers" than any specific brand of
> SMTP/mailbox server underneath.
>
> Len
>
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>
>
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