The name field is also stored in the user DB so we'll be giving access to the first name and last name fields back when LDAP is not running.
Tripp ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 12:00 PM Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] IMail 8.10 Imail Administrator Problem At 09:49 AM 4/13/2004, you wrote: >LDAP allows users of LDAP-enabled clients to: >o Locate LDAP directory information that may include name, phone number, >e-mail address, organization, department, and address. >List all users at a site. >o Browse for users who meet certain criteria. >o Modify user information in the LDAP directory. >o LDAP Administrators can use an LDAP enabled client to add, delete, and >modify user accounts, including any LDAP directory information. > >LDAP is not required to run IMail; you are not forced to use it. The only >difference you'll see right now is the greyed out fields for the user data. Ok, thanks for the reply. I can see how it would be useful. But to us (we don't need the extra info or to give access to it to our users) there is really no benefit to using LDAP, and because of our large user database it's pretty much certain we won't use it. We don't need to be able to edit the user attributes. But we need to be able to edit the first and last name, which with 8.10 and no LDAP are greyed out. Is the display greyed out in admin considered a bug that will get fixed eventually, at least for the first name and last name fields? Thanks, Stephan. >Tripp > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Stephan >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 9:27 AM >Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] IMail 8.10 Imail Administrator Problem > > >Hi Tripp, > >I am sorry if I missing something obvious, but what is the purpose of >running LDAP? We've never had this services on, and running it seems like it >will just add headaches during upgrades because from what I've read on the >list the LDAP init/conversion is very slow on large user databases. >We have over 100,000 users in our database, and mysql is handling this just >fine. >Imail is working great for us without LDAP, why are we suddenly forced to >start using it in 8.10? Is there some benefit to running LDAP? > >If we continue not using LDAP will Imail work properly except for the Admin >fields being grayed out? Any chance this might be put back the way it was >(LDAP not required)? > >Stephan. > >At 09:03 AM 4/13/2004, you wrote: > >There are some other things you can try before running the Init, search the >archives from last week. But, your best bet is to contact technical support >so someone can talk you through the problem you are having. > >There is a command line utilty that can convert the LDAP database from old >format to new. Support can give you further details on that, but it is not >mandatory to run LDAP. > >Tripp > >----- Original Message ----- >From: NextGen Admin >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 8:27 AM >Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] IMail 8.10 Imail Administrator Problem > > >Hi, > >LDAP init tried to restart the service which failed. Then after i read some >more posts I changed the port of LDAP from 389 to 400 and LDAP started. > >Now the Imail Administrator works dead slow when i click on any user to see >it's properties. At times it shows not responding. >i tried to do the init of LDAP and its still dead slow. (unusable) > >Also my biggest question is, how do i go about updating a live server that >has thousands of users? It is not currently running the LDAP service >(stopped). >Regards, >Alexander Spiteri >NextGen.net Ltd. >Tel : (+356) 21419109 >Fax : (+356) 21438948 > > >Url: <http://www.nextgen.net.mt> - Internet Service >Url: <http://www.softmedia.com.mt> - Software, Web Design and Hosting >Url: <http://www.nextgen.com.mt> - Computer Hardware and Support >-----Original Message----- >From: Tripp Allen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 12:43 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] IMail 8.10 Imail Administrator Problem > > >Try to perform an LDAP Init from the LDAP services tab. > >Tripp > >----- Original Message ----- >From: NextGen Admin >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 6:11 AM >Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] IMail 8.10 Imail Administrator Problem > > >HI, > >Thanks for the explanation. We tried to start the LDAP server and it gave >the following error in the event log : > >The description for Event ID ( 1281 ) in Source ( OpenLDAP-slapd ) cannot be >found. The local computer may not have the necessary registry information or >message DLL files to display messages from a remote computer. You may be >able to use the /AUXSOURCE= flag to retrieve this description; see Help and >Support for details. The following information is part of the event: . > >What should we do? > >Regards, >Alexander Spiteri >NextGen.net Ltd. >Tel : (+356) 21419109 >Fax : (+356) 21438948 > > >Url: <http://www.nextgen.net.mt> - Internet Service >Url: <http://www.softmedia.com.mt> - Software, Web Design and Hosting >Url: <http://www.nextgen.com.mt> - Computer Hardware and Support >-----Original Message----- >From: Tripp Allen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 5:12 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] IMail 8.10 Imail Administrator Problem > > >The User Attributes (organization, department, address, city, >state/province, postal code, country, telephone) are stored in LDAP. In >IMail 8.05 and earlier, IMail had access to this database even though the >LDAP server wasn't running. In 8.1, IMail started using Open LDAP. IMail >only has access to this data through the LDAP server, so if it's not running >IMail can't get the data. > >Tripp > >----- Original Message ----- >From: NextGen Admin >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 9:23 AM >Subject: [IMail Forum] IMail 8.10 Imail Administrator Problem > > >We have the same problem when reading external Databases, while emails work >fine the administrator only allows editing of 3 fields. Before updating to >Imail 8.10 all was ok. > >Fields which allow editing. (Other are grayed out) >password >reply to >forward > >We do not use LDAP, however now we are seeing the notice **LDAP server is >not running** > >Regards, >Alexander Spiteri >NextGen.net Ltd. >Tel : (+356) 21419109 >Fax : (+356) 21438948 > > >Url: <http://www.nextgen.net.mt> - Internet Service >Url: <http://www.softmedia.com.mt> - Software, Web Design and Hosting >Url: <http://www.nextgen.com.mt> - Computer Hardware and Support > >To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html List >Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ >Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ > > >To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html >List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ >Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/
