----- Original Message ----- 
From: "A. Clausen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> > > > > My feeling is that MS
> > > > > trying to push Sender ID through is just an example of closing the
> > barn
> > > > door
> > > > > after the cows have come home.
> > > >
> > > > A lot of people have fallen victim to this same misguided belief in
> the
> > > > past, and history has proven otherwise.  In this instance, we shall
> > see...
> > >
> > > We through postgrey on to our Postfix box and saw spam and viruses
drop
> by
> > > 75%.  If some of the big guys would close of port 25 to all but their
> MTAs
> > I
> > > suspect you would see a similar effect.  Perhaps that would mean that
> the
> > > hackers would step up attempts to root hack MTAs, but that should be
> > > substantially easier to deal with than 10 million people with
> compromised
> > > Windows boxes.
> >
> > Wow, nice digression there...!  We run postgrey on our Postfix gateways,
> as
> > well.  But what does this have to do with your Microsoft SenderID
> comments?
>
> I never said SPF was the total solution, or even 50% of the solution.  I
> think to get the upper hand is going to require a combination of things;
> greylisting, SPF, port 25 blocking, etc.  There's no single magic bullet,
> but a combination of things has shown to be quite effective.

Oh, okay, now I understand (NOT) - guess I must have missed my invitation to
the party...

Bill


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