Laurent Blume wrote:
Patrick Finch a écrit :
Well, we are having these rather fundamental discussions on an
OpenSolaris community list. And I cannot agree with your
characterisation of this project. I think it is about the next step in
growing the OpenSolaris community - (or do you consider that to be Sun's
PR?).
Clearly it is. Indiana was certainly not started by the OpenSolaris
community, but on Ian's blog as he joined Sun, then on Jonathan's.
Yes, this project clearly comes from Ian and with Jonathan's blessing.
But how little association with the organisation that founded the
OpenSolaris community would the originator of the proposal require in
order for it to be a community project? Is Sun disqualified as an
OpenSolaris community member? Is Canonical disqualified from the Ubuntu
community? Red Hat from Fedora?
That Sun wants the Community to get in line and cooperate as they see
fit is obvious, but they do not seem to want to relinquish their
control. To the contrary, since they're pushing for changes on the whole
definition of what "OpenSolaris" is, and what kind of use can be done of
the name.
Do the other distros feel penalised by this? (Genuine question). I
think many of us wanted to have a distro with the name OpenSolaris, and
that now it is a possibility, and that the community is very welcome to
join in the definition, creation and use of it. If that is to the
disadvantage of others and it is considered that Sun has acted in bad
faith, I agree that is serious. But I don't think that is the case.
I'm not saying that Indiana is not something useful, but rather than Sun
is not really behaving as a nice community member, and pushing aside the
others.
So, to your question, does the actual community need a distribution?
Clearly not - it already exists, it is the "actual community". We want
to consider the potential community.
So, rather than educate people than never even connected to
opensolaris.org, you'd rather just adapt the whole project to fit their
uninformed perceptions?
Well, like many others here, I do the former and I don't think we're
talking about adapting the whole project, but rather adding to it by
answering the demand that we have encountered for a specific binary distro.
I see the logic, it might even work on the PR side, but I can't say I
approve of it.
I understand, and can see that for you this is a question of principle.
Patrick
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