No, it's not disqualified, of course. But Sun is taking a posture that
shows that "all Community members are equals, but Sun is more equal than
the others", to paraphrase Orwell. And Sun can change the rules if the
ones that were established do not fit the current PR plan.
I think you are using "PR plan" in a derogatory manner. But yes, the
literary reference hadn't escaped me either :)
Do the other distros feel penalised by this? (Genuine question). I
think many of us wanted to have a distro with the name OpenSolaris, and
that now it is a possibility, and that the community is very welcome to
join in the definition, creation and use of it. If that is to the
disadvantage of others and it is considered that Sun has acted in bad
faith, I agree that is serious. But I don't think that is the case.
I can't answer for them. But I know that I'm educating people around me
about what OpenSolaris is by its current definition. And it's obvious
that if there were a distro called OpenSolaris, they would never look
any further.
Could you explain what you mean by this? They wouldn't look at any
other distro? Or they wouldn't ask the question? (didn't understand).
Do you mean it would be good or bad if there were such a distro then?
Well, like many others here, I do the former and I don't think we're
talking about adapting the whole project,
You are trying to change its very definition. I translated it, and its
FAQ, so I'm quite sure about how the OpenSolaris Project is currently
defined, in two languages.
We're in the realm of semantics. OpenSolaris is defined on
OpenSolaris.org not to include a distro. But many of the people we seek
to attract still don't get this and if we feel that OpenSolaris is
defined by what it says on openSolaris.org and fr.opensolaris.org/ et
al, then we can be change it if we think it is a good idea.
However, this does not equate to "adapting the whole project", as what
is there today, remains.
The demand from people that pretended they couldn't find the download
link? I've seen some posts and pointers to blogs that weren't exactly
accurate in their description of the difficulty to get a distro.
They *are* there. Already. Right Now. So why eclipse them with a new one?
Well, which distro do you recommend? I end up recommending them all
depending on what someone likes, but the latest and greatest is SXCE,
which is a turn-off for many, for a variety of reasons (btw, I like it,
and I use it).
And Ian's point is that unless we start off with a reference distro for
other distros to innovate on top of, we risk fragmentation of the
platform, like Linux has today.
I understand, and can see that for you this is a question of principle.
Yes, but it's practical as well. If Sun seems to tighten its grip again
on OpenSolaris, it won't look good, after all the talk on freedom and
all. And it will alienate long-time Solaris enthusiasts.
Sure - that would really not be a good thing to see. Other than the
name issue, do you think Indiana runs the risk of doing this? (I hope
not, but we must understand this). I mean, Sun surely has the right to
invest and to steer the project provided it happens in the open, right?
(Serious question)
Patrick
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