Patrick Finch a écrit :
> I think you are using "PR plan" in a derogatory manner.  But yes, the
> literary reference hadn't escaped me either :)

It's not that derogatory. I do enjoy buzz around Sun. But Sun's
marketing campaigns hasn't always been very consistent. Ever tried to
explain Solaris numbering or Sun compiler's naming?

> Could you explain what you mean by this?  They wouldn't look at any
> other distro?  Or they wouldn't ask the question?  (didn't understand).
>  Do you mean it would be good or bad if there were such a distro then?

That they wouldn't ask question, would not try any other non-Sun distro,
and probably not even understand what they are. Good or bad - it depends
on what you want. Bad in my view, certainly.

> We're in the realm of semantics.  OpenSolaris is defined on
> OpenSolaris.org not to include a distro.  But many of the people we seek
> to attract still don't get this and if we feel that OpenSolaris is
> defined by what it says on openSolaris.org and fr.opensolaris.org/ et
> al, then we can be change it if we think it is a good idea.

I sincerely don't think that attracting illiterate people will add any
value to OpenSolaris. And I'm not joking. What would somebody who
connects to the site, and is unable to read a few clear sentences bring
us? More dumb questions on the mailing lists?
OpenSolaris is not yet mainstream enough to cope with that. It will, at
one point, but not right now.

> However, this does not equate to "adapting the whole project", as what
> is there today, remains.

Well, let's agree to disagree there.

> Well, which distro do you recommend?  I end up recommending them all
> depending on what someone likes, but the latest and greatest is SXCE,
> which is a turn-off for many, for a variety of reasons (btw, I like it,
> and I use it).

Same for me.

> And Ian's point is that unless we start off with a reference distro for
> other distros to innovate on top of, we risk fragmentation of the
> platform, like Linux has today.

So why did you open source Solaris? This was one of my concerns at the
time, and Sun convinced me I was wrong, that it would be ok to have
multiple distros. This is too soon to ask me to turn around.

> Sure - that would really not be a good thing to see.  Other than the
> name issue, do you think Indiana runs the risk of doing this?  (I hope
> not, but we must understand this).

Yes, I do. If only, this whole change of policy proves Sun can do it
simply by hiring a new popular figure 3 years from now. Suddenly, the
meaning of words change.

>   I mean, Sun surely has the right to
> invest and to steer the project provided it happens in the open, right?
>  (Serious question)

Sure they do. They can change their policy and their PR at a whim. they
can steer merry-go-round if they want, too. But they can't expect it to
look good, nor to that they'll attract enough Linux users to replace
their lost longtime Solaris userbase.

Laurent
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