Chris Mahan wrote:


On 6/29/07, *Shawn Walker* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:

    On 29/06/07, John Sonnenschein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
    <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
    >
    > On 29-Jun-07, at 2:47 PM, Shawn Walker wrote:
    >
    > > On 29/06/07, Glynn Foster < [EMAIL PROTECTED]
    <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
    > >>
    > >>
    > >> Doug Scott wrote:
    > >> > Are you excluding Java?
    > >>
    > >> Preferably - it's a pretty huge component, so if I could
    avoid its
    > >> dependency,
    > >> then I'd like to see it punted to the network repository.
    > >
    > > The jre would be included by default at a minimum since I
    think most
    > > people expect support for their browser.
    > >
    > > However, I wouldn't expect the jdk by default due to its size.
    > >
    >
    > FWIW, I don't expect or care about Java support in my browser. I've
    > not come across a java web applet in years. Flash, OTOH I encounter
    > constantly

    Many bank / credit sites use it.


In Korea most banks require ActiveX. (there was an article about that recently... ah, thanks google: http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/24/south-korea-warns-against-willy-nilly-vista-upgrades/)

If my bank used Java in its application, I would switch bank (not kidding either).

Actually I would prefer the security of Java over ActiveX (and flash) anyday. Flash (though probably never open source) is required. Though 90% of sites just use it for annoying ads or intro screens :(

Doug
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