On 29/06/07, Doug Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Chris Mahan wrote:
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> On 6/29/07, *Doug Scott* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
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> Chris Mahan wrote:
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> > On 6/29/07, *Shawn Walker* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > On 29/06/07, John Sonnenschein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > On 29-Jun-07, at 2:47 PM, Shawn Walker wrote:
> > >
> > > > On 29/06/07, Glynn Foster < [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>>
> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Doug Scott wrote:
> > > >> > Are you excluding Java?
> > > >>
> > > >> Preferably - it's a pretty huge component, so if I could
> > avoid its
> > > >> dependency,
> > > >> then I'd like to see it punted to the network repository.
> > > >
> > > > The jre would be included by default at a minimum since I
> > think most
> > > > people expect support for their browser.
> > > >
> > > > However, I wouldn't expect the jdk by default due to its
> size.
> > > >
> > >
> > > FWIW, I don't expect or care about Java support in my
> browser. I've
> > > not come across a java web applet in years. Flash, OTOH I
> encounter
> > > constantly
> >
> > Many bank / credit sites use it.
> >
> >
> > In Korea most banks require ActiveX. (there was an article about
> that
> > recently... ah, thanks google:
> >
>
http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/24/south-korea-warns-against-willy-nilly-vista-upgrades/)
> >
> > If my bank used Java in its application, I would switch bank (not
> > kidding either).
>
> Actually I would prefer the security of Java over ActiveX (and flash)
> anyday.
> Flash (though probably never open source) is required. Though 90% of
> sites just use it for annoying ads or intro screens :(
>
>
> Generally off -topic:
> Granted about ActiveX (don't use that either by virtue of my using
> Firefox).
> On the Flash front, check out the Flashblock firefox extension. It
> blocks flash and just displays a small image and I can run the flash
> by clicking the icon.
I have used flashblock before, but some of the flash apps which I
actually wanted to use would not work properly when it was installed.
Back to the Java front. I think that it would be a mistake not to
include the jre in the base, though the jre size on Solaris does concern me.
Doug
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> du -hs /usr/jdk/jdk1.6.0/jre
124M /usr/jdk/jdk1.6.0/jre
Wowzers. That is much bigger than I thought it would be. I wonder if
that includes documentation though or some other "fluff"?
--
Shawn Walker, Software and Systems Analyst
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://binarycrusader.blogspot.com/
"Beware of bugs in the above code; I have only proved it correct, not
tried it. " --Donald Knuth
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