I am also opposed to Area Directors serving as WG chairs of WGs in their own Area.
Donald ============================= Donald E. Eastlake 3rd +1-508-634-2066 (home) 155 Beaver Street Milford, MA 01757 USA [email protected] On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 5:00 PM, Brian E Carpenter <[email protected]> wrote: > +1, but I think you should consider "hiring" a co-chair who > isn't an AD at an early stage. It can get a bit awkward if a > document is proposed for adoption that the ADs are unhappy > about, unless there is an independent chair to make the consensus > call. > > Regards > Brian > > On 2009-10-01 07:44, Margaret Wasserman wrote: >> >> I support the idea of creating this WG, and the proposed charter looks >> good to me. >> >> Margaret >> >> On Sep 30, 2009, at 12:26 PM, Jari Arkko wrote: >> >>> All, >>> >>> We have had Internet Area meetings for a number of years now, but I'm >>> not sure if anyone's noticed that its formally just a meeting and not >>> an official working group. We do have a list, we talk about important >>> topics during the meetings, and sometimes we even progress documents >>> that have no obvious home elsewhere. We run working group last calls, >>> but formally the documents that we take forward are AD sponsored >>> individual submissions. >>> >>> Ralph and I have reviewed the situation and we think that it would >>> be useful to turn the group into an official working group. This >>> has a number of benefits: >>> >>> - the group would show up in the tools.ietf.org/wg/<WG> directory >>> and other systems >>> >>> - we'd have a charter that describes to everyone what the group >>> is supposed to talk about >>> >>> - the process would be clearer for, say, adopting a document >>> >>> - the ADs would get also a blue dot in their IETF badges :-) or >>> depending on workload, we could hire other chairs, secretaries, >>> and so on to help with the group >>> >>> In other words, the group wouldn't be such a special case for >>> us to deal with. Thoughts? We have included a suggested charter >>> below. >>> >>> Jari and Ralph >>> >>> ----- >>> >>> Internet Area Working Group (intarea) >>> >>> Last modified: 2009-09-30 >>> >>> Chairs: >>> Jari Arkko <[email protected]> >>> Ralph Droms <[email protected]> >>> >>> Internet Area (int) Directors: >>> Jari Arkko <[email protected]> >>> Ralph Droms <[email protected]> >>> >>> Internet Area Advisor: >>> Jari Arkko <[email protected]> >>> Ralph Droms <[email protected]> >>> >>> Mailing Lists: >>> General Discussion: [email protected] >>> Subscribe online at: https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/int-area >>> >>> Description of Working Group: >>> >>> The Internet Area Working Group (INTAREA WG) acts as a forum for >>> discussing far-ranging topics that affect the entire area. Such >>> topics include, for instance, address space issues, basic IP layer >>> functionality, and architectural questions. >>> >>> The Internet Area receives occasional proposals for the development >>> and publication of RFCs that are not in scope of an existing working >>> group and do not justify the formation of a new working group. The >>> INTAREA WG will also serve as the forum for developing such work >>> items in the IETF. >>> >>> The working group milestones are updated as needed to reflect the >>> current work items and their associated milestones. Significant new >>> work items will be brought for approval with the IESG. >>> >>> Milestones: >>> >>> December 2009 Submission of IPID document to the IESG as PS >>> March 2010 Submission of tunneling issues document to the IESG as >>> Info >>> December 2010 Submission of SEAL document to the IESG as Exp >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Int-area mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/int-area >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Int-area mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/int-area >> > _______________________________________________ > Int-area mailing list > [email protected] > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/int-area > _______________________________________________ Int-area mailing list [email protected] https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/int-area
