+1 

(this is also the practice in OPSAWG)

Dan
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David Harrington
> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 1:06 AM
> To: 'Sri Gundavelli'; 'Donald Eastlake'
> Cc: 'Internet Area'
> Subject: Re: [Int-area] intarea charter
> 
> +1
> 
> dbh 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected]
> > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sri Gundavelli
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 6:31 PM
> > To: Donald Eastlake
> > Cc: Internet Area
> > Subject: Re: [Int-area] intarea charter
> > 
> > Agree. Treating it like any other group with WG chairs running the 
> > business, under AD supervison, makes more sense.
> > 
> > Sri
> > 
> > 
> > On Wed, 30 Sep 2009, Donald Eastlake wrote:
> > 
> > > I am also opposed to Area Directors serving as WG chairs 
> of WGs in 
> > > their own Area.
> > >
> > > Donald
> > > =============================
> > > Donald E. Eastlake 3rd   +1-508-634-2066 (home)
> > > 155 Beaver Street
> > > Milford, MA 01757 USA
> > > [email protected]
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 5:00 PM, Brian E Carpenter 
> > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >> +1, but I think you should consider "hiring" a co-chair who
> > >> isn't an AD at an early stage. It can get a bit awkward if a 
> > >> document is proposed for adoption that the ADs are 
> unhappy about, 
> > >> unless there is an independent chair to make the consensus call.
> > >>
> > >> Regards
> > >>   Brian
> > >>
> > >> On 2009-10-01 07:44, Margaret Wasserman wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> I support the idea of creating this WG, and the proposed
> > charter looks
> > >>> good to me.
> > >>>
> > >>> Margaret
> > >>>
> > >>> On Sep 30, 2009, at 12:26 PM, Jari Arkko wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> All,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> We have had Internet Area meetings for a number of years
> > now, but I'm
> > >>>> not sure if anyone's noticed that its formally just a
> > meeting and not
> > >>>> an official working group. We do have a list, we talk
> > about important
> > >>>> topics during the meetings, and sometimes we even
> > progress documents
> > >>>> that have no obvious home elsewhere. We run working
> > group last calls,
> > >>>> but formally the documents that we take forward are AD
> sponsored
> > >>>> individual submissions.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Ralph and I have reviewed the situation and we think
> > that it would
> > >>>> be useful to turn the group into an official working group.
> This
> > >>>> has a number of benefits:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> - the group would show up in the tools.ietf.org/wg/<WG>
> directory
> > >>>> and other systems
> > >>>>
> > >>>> - we'd have a charter that describes to everyone what 
> the group 
> > >>>> is supposed to talk about
> > >>>>
> > >>>> - the process would be clearer for, say, adopting a document
> > >>>>
> > >>>> - the ADs would get also a blue dot in their IETF 
> badges :-) or 
> > >>>> depending on workload, we could hire other chairs, 
> secretaries, 
> > >>>> and so on to help with the group
> > >>>>
> > >>>> In other words, the group wouldn't be such a special 
> case for us 
> > >>>> to deal with. Thoughts? We have included a suggested charter 
> > >>>> below.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Jari and Ralph
> > >>>>
> > >>>> -----
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Internet Area Working Group (intarea)
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Last modified: 2009-09-30
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Chairs:
> > >>>> Jari Arkko <[email protected]> Ralph Droms 
> <[email protected]>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Internet Area (int) Directors:
> > >>>> Jari Arkko <[email protected]> Ralph Droms 
> <[email protected]>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Internet Area Advisor:
> > >>>> Jari Arkko <[email protected]> Ralph Droms 
> <[email protected]>
> > >>>>
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> > >>>>
> > >>>> Description of Working Group:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> The Internet Area Working Group (INTAREA WG) acts as a forum
> for
> > >>>> discussing far-ranging topics that affect the entire 
> area. Such 
> > >>>> topics include, for instance, address space issues,
> > basic IP layer
> > >>>> functionality, and architectural questions.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> The Internet Area receives occasional proposals for the
> > development
> > >>>> and publication of RFCs that are not in scope of an
> > existing working
> > >>>> group and do not justify the formation of a new working
> > group. The
> > >>>> INTAREA WG will also serve as the forum for developing such
> work
> > >>>> items in the IETF.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> The working group milestones are updated as needed to reflect
> the
> > >>>> current work items and their associated milestones. 
> > Significant new
> > >>>> work items will be brought for approval with the IESG.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Milestones:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> December 2009  Submission of IPID document to the IESG as PS 
> > >>>> March    2010  Submission of tunneling issues document
> > to the IESG as
> > >>>> Info
> > >>>> December 2010  Submission of SEAL document to the IESG as Exp
> > >>>>
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