I do support chartering this WG, but I have some concern about the milestone list...

I think it would be a good idea to get consensus in the intarea WG (once formed) that these items should be adopted as WG work items, and to determine that there is sufficient energy/interest to carry them forward, before adding them to the milestone list, just as we would with new items that are introduced in the future. This would save us from the potential problem of having an item in the WG charter that the WG doesn't have rough consensus to advance and/or doesn't have the interest or energy to complete.

I also agree with comments about why it might be a better idea to choose non-AD chairs.

Margaret


On Sep 30, 2009, at 12:26 PM, Jari Arkko wrote:

All,

We have had Internet Area meetings for a number of years now, but I'm
not sure if anyone's noticed that its formally just a meeting and not
an official working group. We do have a list, we talk about important
topics during the meetings, and sometimes we even progress documents
that have no obvious home elsewhere. We run working group last calls,
but formally the documents that we take forward are AD sponsored
individual submissions.

Ralph and I have reviewed the situation and we think that it would
be useful to turn the group into an official working group. This
has a number of benefits:

- the group would show up in the tools.ietf.org/wg/<WG> directory
and other systems

- we'd have a charter that describes to everyone what the group
is supposed to talk about

- the process would be clearer for, say, adopting a document

- the ADs would get also a blue dot in their IETF badges :-) or
depending on workload, we could hire other chairs, secretaries,
and so on to help with the group

In other words, the group wouldn't be such a special case for
us to deal with. Thoughts? We have included a suggested charter
below.

Jari and Ralph

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Internet Area Working Group (intarea)

Last modified: 2009-09-30

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Ralph Droms <[email protected]>

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The Internet Area receives occasional proposals for the development
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December 2009  Submission of IPID document to the IESG as PS
March 2010 Submission of tunneling issues document to the IESG as Info
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