+1

dbh 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sri Gundavelli
> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 6:31 PM
> To: Donald Eastlake
> Cc: Internet Area
> Subject: Re: [Int-area] intarea charter
> 
> Agree. Treating it like any other group with WG chairs
> running the business, under AD supervison, makes more sense.
> 
> Sri
> 
> 
> On Wed, 30 Sep 2009, Donald Eastlake wrote:
> 
> > I am also opposed to Area Directors serving as WG chairs of WGs in
> > their own Area.
> >
> > Donald
> > =============================
> > Donald E. Eastlake 3rd   +1-508-634-2066 (home)
> > 155 Beaver Street
> > Milford, MA 01757 USA
> > [email protected]
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 5:00 PM, Brian E Carpenter
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> +1, but I think you should consider "hiring" a co-chair who
> >> isn't an AD at an early stage. It can get a bit awkward if a
> >> document is proposed for adoption that the ADs are unhappy
> >> about, unless there is an independent chair to make the consensus
> >> call.
> >>
> >> Regards
> >>   Brian
> >>
> >> On 2009-10-01 07:44, Margaret Wasserman wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I support the idea of creating this WG, and the proposed 
> charter looks
> >>> good to me.
> >>>
> >>> Margaret
> >>>
> >>> On Sep 30, 2009, at 12:26 PM, Jari Arkko wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> All,
> >>>>
> >>>> We have had Internet Area meetings for a number of years 
> now, but I'm
> >>>> not sure if anyone's noticed that its formally just a 
> meeting and not
> >>>> an official working group. We do have a list, we talk 
> about important
> >>>> topics during the meetings, and sometimes we even 
> progress documents
> >>>> that have no obvious home elsewhere. We run working 
> group last calls,
> >>>> but formally the documents that we take forward are AD
sponsored
> >>>> individual submissions.
> >>>>
> >>>> Ralph and I have reviewed the situation and we think 
> that it would
> >>>> be useful to turn the group into an official working group.
This
> >>>> has a number of benefits:
> >>>>
> >>>> - the group would show up in the tools.ietf.org/wg/<WG>
directory
> >>>> and other systems
> >>>>
> >>>> - we'd have a charter that describes to everyone what the group
> >>>> is supposed to talk about
> >>>>
> >>>> - the process would be clearer for, say, adopting a document
> >>>>
> >>>> - the ADs would get also a blue dot in their IETF badges :-) or
> >>>> depending on workload, we could hire other chairs, secretaries,
> >>>> and so on to help with the group
> >>>>
> >>>> In other words, the group wouldn't be such a special case for
> >>>> us to deal with. Thoughts? We have included a suggested charter
> >>>> below.
> >>>>
> >>>> Jari and Ralph
> >>>>
> >>>> -----
> >>>>
> >>>> Internet Area Working Group (intarea)
> >>>>
> >>>> Last modified: 2009-09-30
> >>>>
> >>>> Chairs:
> >>>> Jari Arkko <[email protected]>
> >>>> Ralph Droms <[email protected]>
> >>>>
> >>>> Internet Area (int) Directors:
> >>>> Jari Arkko <[email protected]>
> >>>> Ralph Droms <[email protected]>
> >>>>
> >>>> Internet Area Advisor:
> >>>> Jari Arkko <[email protected]>
> >>>> Ralph Droms <[email protected]>
> >>>>
> >>>> Mailing Lists:
> >>>> General Discussion: [email protected]
> >>>> Subscribe online at: 
> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/int-area
> >>>>
> >>>> Description of Working Group:
> >>>>
> >>>> The Internet Area Working Group (INTAREA WG) acts as a forum
for
> >>>> discussing far-ranging topics that affect the entire area. Such
> >>>> topics include, for instance, address space issues, 
> basic IP layer
> >>>> functionality, and architectural questions.
> >>>>
> >>>> The Internet Area receives occasional proposals for the 
> development
> >>>> and publication of RFCs that are not in scope of an 
> existing working
> >>>> group and do not justify the formation of a new working 
> group. The
> >>>> INTAREA WG will also serve as the forum for developing such
work
> >>>> items in the IETF.
> >>>>
> >>>> The working group milestones are updated as needed to reflect
the
> >>>> current work items and their associated milestones. 
> Significant new
> >>>> work items will be brought for approval with the IESG.
> >>>>
> >>>> Milestones:
> >>>>
> >>>> December 2009  Submission of IPID document to the IESG as PS
> >>>> March    2010  Submission of tunneling issues document 
> to the IESG as
> >>>> Info
> >>>> December 2010  Submission of SEAL document to the IESG as Exp
> >>>>
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