On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 at 23:05, tag Knife <fennic...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 at 20:41, Arvids Godjuks <arvids.godj...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > >> If people want to mirror internals to GitHub and manage it all and then >> feed back the information into the list with links and feedback - >> personally be my guest. But let's get one thing clear - email has been and >> is the most critical communication tool out there and that is not going to >> change. All those Slacks, Discords, Githubs, Microsoft Teams (why MS sucks >> at making any type of messaging platform so badly?) in the end do not >> replace email at all. Your email client cannot go offline just because >> Amazon US-WEST-1 has died again (yes, it dying is basically a meme now). Or >> because your provider had a major outage, so now you can't open Github. Or >> someone misconfigured a BGP route and took down half the internet with it. >> You can't have a copy of github on your phone, laptop, desktop or any other >> device stored locally on each one of them giving you resiliency not to lose >> all that data. What if github gets hacked and someone goes and nukes a >> bunch of data? Or some DMCA takedown gets claimed against the org and >> Github is required to comply by law? It does not matter that it might have >> been bogus or frivolous - unless you have the funds to hire a lawyer and >> defend yourself in court from which jurisdiction the DMCA came, you are >> stuffed as a Thanksgiving turkey. >> > > The internet is still the internet and all those issues can still effect > email. I use gmail and if googles email servers go down email the mail > server that send the email doesnt have retry setup I wont get that email. > If my internet goes down I wont get the emails untill its back up. If the > server PHP used for the maillist server goes down nothing get sent/received. > The internet and everything connected to it can and will go down. Email > isn't magically unaffected by that fact. > A joke about "people who don't do backups and people who now do backups" kinda fits. Those who care - those have their clients configured to fetch and store their emails locally constantly. I have my phone configured to grab all emails and have them available offline. IMAP/POP3 hasn't gone anywhere too. Having things available offline is something I appreciate more and more. People have different workflows, and there is a surprising amount of people I meet who purposefully avoid being constantly online for all kinds of reasons. --
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