Alain

Your point about security is valid but is relevant to securing RAs
in general, and is not specific to the M/O bits. If you want to be sure
they're 
secure just use SEND. 

Hesham


 > -----Original Message-----
 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 > Behalf Of Alain Durand
 > Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 1:14 PM
 > To: IETF IPv6 Mailing List; JINMEI Tatuya / ????
 > Subject: Re: [rfc2462bis] whether we need the M/O flags
 > 
 > 
 > Let me try to explain why I, as an implementor, do not like the M/O 
 > bits very much.
 > 
 > It is not that DHCPv6 cannot be made secure, it is that the 
 > M/O bits are
 > an automatic and insecure way to trigger an external configuration 
 > mechanism.
 > 
 > The are security implication for the hosts in implementing 
 > those bits.
 > They are received in RA, which are mostly insecure (anyone 
 > can send a 
 > "valid" RA)
 > The current text says a host should turn stateful autoconf when 
 > receiving those bits.
 > So one could mount an attack fairly easily by introducing a 
 > rogue DHCPv6
 > server on a network that had no DHCPv6 so far and send a fake RA with
 > the M/O bits on. The host will then configure itself using 
 > data coming
 > from the new rogue DHCPv6 server.
 > 
 > 2462 says "host should invoke the stateful address autoconfiguration 
 > protocol"
 > and not "MUST invoke", so there are already provision for not obeying
 > the M/O bits. But if those bits are not mandatory to 
 > execute, why are 
 > they here in
 > the first place? To give a hint that DHCPv6 is present?
 > Host should not blindly believe this unless the RA are secured.
 > Also, there are no such bits in IPv4, and host implementations that 
 > chose to turn
 > DHCPv4 on simply try it. Why is is not good for IPv6?
 > 
 >      - Alain.
 > 
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