Fernando,

On Jan 21, 2011, at 8:55 AM, Fernando Gont wrote:

> Hi, Thomas,
> 
> On 10/01/2011 11:10 a.m., Thomas Narten wrote:
>> The crux of the issue is the following:
>> 
>>>   1.  It is RECOMMENDED that source hosts support the flow label by
>>>       setting the flow label field for all packets of a flow to the
>>>       same pseudo-random value.
>> 
>> I do not see a reason to require this.
> 
> Probably that could/should be rephrased as:
> 
>   1.  It is RECOMMENDED that source hosts support the flow label by
>       setting the flow label field for all packets of a flow to the
>       same value. Such value should not be easily predictable by an
>       off-path attacker.

We could also add to this something like:  One way to achieve this is with a 
pseudo-random value.

Bob


> 
> 
> 
>> You do NOT need uniform spread on the input to the hash to get such an
>> output. A decent hash algorithm is what you need. You also don't need
>> Flow Labels selected in a psuedo random fashion.
> 
> Agreed. But predictable values have been found to have problems. See
> e.g. the implications of the IPv4 identification field in
> http://www.gont.com.ar/papers/InternetProtocol.pdf
> 
> 
>> RFC 3697 says specifically you can assign Flow Label values
>> sequentially. 
> 
> Indeed, draft-gont-6man-flowlabel-security does select flow-labels
> incrementally --- although with a scheme that makes it difficult for an
> off-path attacker to guess te next flowlabel value.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Best regards,
> -- 
> Fernando Gont
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