On Sep 27, 2011, at 11:36 AM, Rob V wrote: > That doesn't mean all the systems within the car need to speak to the > outside world. The engine thermometer doesn't care about traffic or the > location of the nearest train station.
True, but increasingly automotive telematics are being used / folk want to be able to allow your vehicle to poke the dealership and report that something is wrong / marginal, and then parameters can be adjusted on the fly[0]. Wouldn't it be cool[1] if the thermometer could report to the nearest dealership that the engine is overheating and the dealership could use this information when you come in to diagnose the issue (or, more likely, invalidate your warrantee :-0)) > It just needs to tell the dashboard > its current read-out. I presume those are the kinds of systems the OP was > referring to. Yes, and I think that many of the responses come from folk who have seen the same thing claimed about all sorts of things -- and then very soon after that seen those same thing connected to the 'net. For example, my home thermostat and garage door opener both speak IP. When I initial installed them I never figured I'd want them accessible from anywhere other than locally... but it turns out that I do... W [0]: Now, whether this is a *good* idea is completely orthogonal... [1]: IMO, no, but... see: "Comprehensive Experimental Analyses of Automotive Attack Surfaces", S.Checkoway [link: www.autosec.org/pubs/cars-usenixsec2011.pdf ] > > > -----Original Message----- > From: ipv6-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:ipv6-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Ray > Hunter > Sent: September-27-11 11:24 AM > To: Roland Bless > Cc: 6man > Subject: Centrally assigned "ULAs" for automotives and other, environments > > Who are we trying to kid about there being no need for a connection to > the Internet? > > FYI A consortium in the Netherlands have just announced a scheme that is > planning to link in-car navigation systems with traffic control and > information systems, and also public transport systems, so that if > there's a traffic jam and it is going to be faster to take the train > than drive, the car driver will be redirected to the nearest train > station. The system should even being able to reserve a car parking spot > on the fly in advance. They expect a prototype in October. The idea > being that coordinated transport reduces the need for infrastructure > spending. And I know of at least one group who have been experimenting > with car-car and car-infra communication. > > regards, > RayH > >> Message: 3 >> Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 15:36:31 +0200 >> From: Roland Bless<roland.bl...@kit.edu> >> To: 6man<ipv6@ietf.org> >> Subject: Centrally assigned "ULAs" for automotives and other >> environments >> Message-ID:<4e81d15f.6090...@kit.edu> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 >> >> Hi, >> >> it seems that there is currently not much interest in ULA-Cs (centrally >> assigned ULAs). I came across several use cases, where manufacturers >> (e.g, those of cars, airplanes, or smart metering environments) >> would need internal/closed IPv6-based networks (maybe only for internal >> control and management), that have no connection to the Internet. >> >> Roland >> > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > IETF IPv6 working group mailing list > ipv6@ietf.org > Administrative Requests: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6 > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > IETF IPv6 working group mailing list > ipv6@ietf.org > Administrative Requests: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6 > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > -------------------------------------------------------------------- IETF IPv6 working group mailing list ipv6@ietf.org Administrative Requests: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6 --------------------------------------------------------------------
