On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 6:35 PM, phil.swen...@gmail.com <phil.swen...@gmail.com> wrote: > can anyone deny that C# moves a lot faster than Java?
I don't have the data to confirm or deny that, but, faster does not necessarily mean better. > It seems that Sun is trapped by the design by committee JCP. Neal > Grafter mentioned this in a previous post to the group.... check this > out: > http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse/browse_thread/thread/78675aebb705506b/7a6ddb5f725490c7?lnk=gst&q=from%3A+neal+gafter#7a6ddb5f725490c7 I take issue with that interpretation of Neal's post. I believe the thrust of his post was about lack of Sun commitment to funding Language Design Specialists like himself to focus on adding new language features. The JCP is essentially a standards organization. As such, it is intended to codify standards after the technologies have proven themselves in the field. Most JSRs are led by or at least have prominent expert group members that worked on the related technology including full prototypes (if not commercial grade working solutions in the wild already) that the standard is being created for. Yeah. Committees get involved in creating standards. That is a necessary evil of any standards creation process. I'm not saying that some design-by-committee is not going on within the JCP. I'm just saying that when done properly this should not be the case and there are many experienced developers/designers involved in the JCP that understand this quite well. Several of them articulated this very point at a recent QCon panel which I participated in. Most notably, Rod Johnson made this point as one of the new JCP EC members participating on the panel. This is a good segue to encourage people that are not happy with the current JCP to get involved. Anyone can become an individual member of the JCP. Be the change you wish to see, why not join the JCP? =) http://jcp.org/en/participation/membership Cheers, Van | Michael "Van" Riper | http://weblogs.java.net/blog/van_riper/ | http://www.linkedin.com/in/vanriper ---- | Silicon Valley Web JUG | mailto:van_ri...@dev.java.net | https://sv-web-jug.dev.java.net ---- | Silicon Valley Google Technology User Group | mailto:van.g...@gmail.com | http://sv-gtug.org --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to javaposse@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to javaposse+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---