Considering what's doable today with average browsers and JavaScript
libraries, allow me to remain hopeful but skeptical in regard to this
being any sort of catalyst for RIA's. Because while JavaFX, Flash and
Silverlight evolves, so does HTML and browsers. People are no longer
getting their hands dirty with raw unpredictable JavaScript but are
using libraries like JQuery, Dojo, Prototype, ExtJS etc:
http://extjs.com/deploy/dev/examples/samples.html

And last I checked, both file upload and copy-paste is receiving major
work in the HTML 5 spec:
http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/

RIA widgets and better interoperability is fine, but are we really
willing to fore-go the features of hypermedia we're now so used to,
such as addressability and uniformity?

/Casper

On 24 Mar., 17:39, Alexey Zinger <inline_f...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Just checked, and you're quite right.
>
> Alexey
>
> --- On Tue, 3/24/09, phil swenson <phil.swen...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > From: phil swenson <phil.swen...@gmail.com>
> > Subject: [The Java Posse] Re: Getting Google to embrace JavaFX -> Idea for 
> > Java / JavaFX coders  with time on their hands...
> > To: "The Java Posse" <javaposse@googlegroups.com>
> > Date: Tuesday, March 24, 2009, 12:23 PM
> > You can't do clipboard paste though.  Or drag from file
> > system.
>
> > On Mar 24, 9:11 am, Alexey Zinger
> > <inline_f...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > Yahoo Mail does this kind of rich text editor
> > (including dragging images off other browser windows).  I
> > haven't looked very deeply into it yet, but it seems to
> > be done primarily with JavaScript.
>
> > > Alexey
>
> > > --- On Tue, 3/24/09, phil swenson
> > <phil.swen...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > From: phil swenson <phil.swen...@gmail.com>
> > > > Subject: [The Java Posse] Re: Getting Google to
> > embrace JavaFX -> Idea for Java / JavaFX coders  with
> > time on their hands...
> > > > To: "The Java Posse"
> > <javaposse@googlegroups.com>
> > > > Date: Tuesday, March 24, 2009, 10:53 AM
> > > > Uploaders are all over the place in Flash and I
> > really doubt
> > > > that Java
> > > > can do a better job than Flash.  Flash's
> > install is
> > > > nicer, faster,
> > > > smaller, and has more market share.
>
> > > > If you really want to provide something
> > interesting I'd
> > > > build a rich
> > > > text editor that can be easily embedded in a web
> > app.
>
> > > > Should have all the standard features for rich
> > text plus
> > > > something
> > > > that flash can't do:  paste images from the
> > clipboard
> > > > (and if possible
> > > > drag images from the filesystem).
>
> > > > I have been requesting clipboard paste of the
> > flash team
> > > > for a long
> > > > time and they still haven't delivered in
> > Flash 10.
> > > > Flex doesn't have
> > > > a decent rich text editor component, it's
> > pathetic with
> > > > absolutely no
> > > > image support.  The javascript rich edit
> > controls are OK,
> > > > but there is
> > > > huge room for improvement (basic stuff like end
> > key goes to
> > > > end of
> > > > line, tab works right).  And they of course can
> > never do an
> > > > image
> > > > paste from clipboard.
>
> > > > This control would be great for an email editor,
> > capturing
> > > > screen-
> > > > shots for a bug tracker, etc.  The one thing I
> > don't
> > > > like about gmail
> > > > is I have to add images via the clunky attachment
> > > > interface.  I want
> > > > to take a screen-shot and drop it straight in the
> > email and
> > > > be able to
> > > > re-size it directly in the editor.
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