> The point, as Joshua said, is that TODAY
> Android is only a very small fraction of the market. Since it's pushed
> by Google, it can do very well, but - again - I'm not talking of trends
> and predictions; it's an argument that I'm not interested of. I posted
> in this discussion only to argue against Casper's assertion of JME
> popularity.

See that's because you equate popularity with runtime distribution
count, which is a red herring.

> Casper, I can argue pretty well and in a few words: it's
> just ridiculous to assert that a thing is popular when 95% of the
> platforms (and thus people) have never seen it. In my part of the world
> (and in my country there are more cell phones that inhabitants) Nokia is
> one of the most common brands, while I've still to see a single person
> owning an Android phone.

How often do you see J2ME being used on a typical Nokia device by your
average Joe? I'd be surprised if it were any different than up here in
Scandinavia, where it's pretty rare. Nokia are trying to get a marked
going with the Ovi store but this is the classic case of too little
too late.

Meanwhile, second generation Android devices are starting to flood the
marked, perhaps you're a little behind where you are from (Italy?) but
the rest of Europe (and the US) seem to be following along sooner
rather than later. The general opinion among reviewers are that this
is the iPhone-for-the-people and even the top Nokia stuff (5800 to
n97) really don't compare.

> But you, Casper, brought the idea of counting effective uses instead of
> installations, and it's up to you to provide numbers. Otherwise your
> statement is just as pointless than Jonathan's or James'.

Let me try an analogy then to illustrate the difference. Is BD-J
popular? By your logic it is, due to the mere count of J2ME BD-J
machines out there. However, since very few titles actually make use
of BD-J. Most people would interpret that as BD-J being unpopular!

> But we have JavaFX for Mobile. What? Yes, it runs only on
> a couple of devices: but it doesn't seem much less devices than Android.

As I've said, 20 Android devices coming onto the marked this year
alone and an expected growth of 900%. Meanwhile, JavaFX is barely
ready for the desktop let alone cell phones on top of J2ME, so I'd
really hate to put my money on that one. But the syntax is nice, I'm
sure we'll see it for the UI layer (Activities) on Android.
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