>From what I've heared from sources in the industry whom I unfortunately cannot name, developing for J2ME is less pleasant than stabbing yourself in the face with a sharp and rusty object repeatedly.
So basically: It doesn't matter how many installations there are, very few people like to stab themselves in the face. Even when they're paid to do so. On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 8:12 PM, Alexey Zinger <inline_f...@yahoo.com> wrote: > I think the average user profile for a Symbian phone user is very different > from that of an average iPhone (and now Android) user. Most people using > J2ME-capable mobile devices aren't nearly as likely to want to spend money > on 3rd party apps as their iPhone and Android counterparts. So it's not > just the size of the market that counts (think targeted advertising -- know > your audience). > > Alexey > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Joshua Marinacci <jos...@gmail.com> > *To:* javaposse@googlegroups.com > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 1, 2009 12:15:59 PM > *Subject:* [The Java Posse] Re: "In defense of Google" thread branch: J2ME > and Android > > > You were talking about why developers, and Google in particular, might > or might not target JavaME. I'm telling you why. Google is practical > and targets large markets, so they build JavaME clients. A much > better question is why does Google target the iPhone which has such a > small marketshare. Probably because they see it growing into > something much bigger. > > The Symbian blog you sent is accurate. MIDP 3.0 hasn't gone well and > the JavaME market is fragmenting. If only there were a new platform > that would smooth out the differences of JavaME implementations and > let developers code at a higher level. A modern 21st century platform > with modern tools, but that leveraged existing code and runtimes. Hmm. > If only. :) > > > > On Jul 1, 2009, at 9:06 AM, Casper Bang wrote: > > > > > I give up, seems like everyone equates popularity with potential > > marked share regardless of how many actually USES their Symbian phone > > for anything but calls and messages (I have yet to meet one). I think > > it's naïve to care only for such a marketing metric, but if that's > > your definition of popularity then so be it. :) > > > > /Casper > > > > On 1 Jul., 17:51, Joshua Marinacci <jos...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> Pointing out that Google also targets J2SE doesn't prove much, given > >>> that they are also more than willing to make Obj-C clients for the > >>> iPhone and other non-J2ME devices. Google is just like that, they go > >>> after the marked and tries to win the hart of users regardless of > >>> underlying technology. > >> > >> Yes, that is exactly my point. Google is pragmatic. JavaME may not > >> be > >> hot or exciting, but it has the numbers, so Google ships apps for it, > >> and the probably will for a long time. I don't disagree that > >> platforms other than JavaME are growing and more exciting, especially > >> as smartphones grow to be a major portion of the market, but I want > >> to > >> dispel the myth that Android (or iPhone, or Palm, etc) have more > >> marketshare than JavaME. They don't. Smartphones collectively still > >> have less than 5% of the market. If you want volume today, it's > >> JavaME. > > > > > > > > > -- Viktor Klang Scala Loudmouth --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to javaposse@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to javaposse+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---