Yes I hear that a lot. Jsf2 is *claimed* to be better: would like to hear from people that have used it (as opposed to vendors).
I think it's too little, too late for jsf2. Also, even if jsf2 is made of awesome: there needs to be a better track record of keeping up with the web then was shown in the past (a fast moving jsr? Not likely). On Jul 11, 11:45 pm, Marcelo Morales <marcelomorales.n...@gmail.com> wrote: > I love the netcast. Let me say that again. I loooooooove the netcast. > I look forward to listen to new episodes. Keep up Posse! > > now.... > > > Bottom line: I'd really like to see The Posse discuss this kind of > > thing a little more. I'm sure the talent behind JSF was great and well- > > intentioned, but the community should be putting more attention on the > > better and more successful products in that same space. > > I Agree... totally!. > > I do not expect high journalism and professionalism from the Posse. I > expect personal opinions from seasoned java programmers. I loved Dick > on ep 262. That's the Spirit!. The thing I love the most is that I am > not being fed with marketing crap, but with experience from guys that > live, suffer and enjoy the quirks of the programming profession, just > as I do; and love the Java, just as I do (I don't find Dick's hating > of the Groovy a problem). > > Allow me to express my opinion, since I feel strongly about JSF: > > I've worked with JSF starting late 2004. I've Tried oracle's > components, apache trinidad, richfaces, shale, myfaces, icefaces, > facelets, seam, and the woodstock stuff that came with netbeans, coded > my own components, changed the lifecycle, added custom contexts, used > the visual designers (netbeans, exadel), and read the specifications: > 1.0, 1.1 and 1.2. > > It wasn't bad. > > Then I worked in an application coded in wicket. I saw the light, > suddenly the grass was greener, the sky opened up and I felt the warn > sunlight come down into my skin. In only three months I achieved the > same productivity in wicket as I gained over a year in JSF, even > without tooling!!. > > I don't want to code in JSF. I am not saying i hate it, but I don't > see any application where it suits better than other alternatives. > > You might say JSF 2.0 solves most of the pains. Well, That's five > years after the first one came out. Say again... FIVE years. > > Bottom line: more discussion, more analysis, more preparation, and, if > deserved, more criticism. > > -- > Marcelo Morales --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to javaposse@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to javaposse+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
