On 22 August 2011 08:52, Kirk <kirk.pepperd...@gmail.com> wrote: > My question is, what is new and innovative about touch screens. I seem to > recall using them prior to the iPhone's existance. OH. I see, someone > married and already existing technology with an already existing technology. > So un-obvious !!!! > > Regards, > Kirk Pepperdine > > Quite! The LG Prada[1] predates the original iPhone[2] by a good year.
Apple is frequently held up as the company that everyone else copies, but they're really not as unique and innovative as seems to be claimed in such discussions. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LG_Prada_(KE850) [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPhone_(original) On Aug 22, 2011, at 9:12 AM, hlovatt wrote: > > > I agree with Carl (Posse) and Karsten (forum), the iPhone was > > revolutionary when it came out and the other phones have copied far > > more from the iPhone than Apple have copied from other phones. There > > are plenty of ways people could make a phone that isn't like an > > iPhone; so the obvious question is why don't they? The answer is that > > finding something that is different and is at least as good takes > > time, talent, and energy and hence copying is cheaper. Therefore I > > think Apple are perfectly entitled to defend their investment in all > > that design and engineering talent they have. > > > > You may not like the current Patent/Copyright laws, but that is > > irrelevant, these laws are all anyone, Apple included, have to work > > with and hence they use them as best they can. I think the laws need > > updating, Apple may well also think the laws needed updating, but the > > law is the law and everyone has to abide by them. This isn't a case of > > Goliath Apple crushing the little guy, it is a far fight with both > > sides well resourced and therefore the court is the proper place for > > the dispute to be settled. > > > > I should disclose that I have a number of patents and two of these > > have earned my employer a few, 2 or 3, million dollars over the years, > > therefore I am an indirect beneficiary of patents since they have > > added to the financial stability of the company I work for and I have > > used the licence fees obtained from these patents as a point in favour > > of promotions I have applied for and received. I have not received any > > direct benefit, i.e. I have not received a cut of the fees > > (unfortunately :( ). > > > > On Aug 22, 7:03 am, Karsten Silz <karsten.s...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Tor: "Android didn't copy the iPhone" > >> If we can believe Gizmodo, then the first Android prototypes looked > >> like Blackberries before Android started following the iPhone (http:// > >> random.andrewwarner.com/what-googles-android-looked-like-before-and- > >> after-the-launch-of-iphone). To me, there's nothing wrong with being a > >> "fast follower" as Google is - and Apple certainly copies from other > >> sources, too (iOS 5 is full of this). Bonus point: Tablets didn't all > >> look like that certain tablet either (http://twitpic.com/67ykpa). > >> > >> Dick: "How many different ways are there to present icons and buttons > >> and pixels on a screen" > >> Look no further than Microsoft Zune music player / Windows Phone 7: > >> That does look unlike anything else on smartphones ( > http://www.riagenic.com/archives/487). Of all companies, Microsoft with a > >> innovative UI - the irony! > >> > >> Dick: "Apple started the smartphone patent wars" > >> Nokia started it - they sued Apple in October 2009 ( > http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2009/oct/22/telecoms-nokia). Apple > "only" > >> sued HTC in March 2010 (http://technologizer.com/2010/03/02/apple-sues- > >> htc/). > >> > >> Logitech Revue > >> More Revue units were returned by customers than being sold in the > >> last quarter (http://phx.corporate-ir.net/External.File? > >> item=UGFyZW50SUQ9MTAxNTAzfENoaWxkSUQ9LTF8VHlwZT0z&t=1, top of page 7). > >> So lowering the price seems like a firesale to me to clear out > >> inventory. > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "The Java Posse" group. > > To post to this group, send email to javaposse@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > javaposse+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "The Java Posse" group. > To post to this group, send email to javaposse@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > javaposse+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. > > -- Kevin Wright mail: kevin.wri...@scalatechnology.com gtalk / msn : kev.lee.wri...@gmail.com quora: http://www.quora.com/Kevin-Wright google+: http://gplus.to/thecoda <kev.lee.wri...@gmail.com> twitter: @thecoda vibe / skype: kev.lee.wright steam: kev_lee_wright "My point today is that, if we wish to count lines of code, we should not regard them as "lines produced" but as "lines spent": the current conventional wisdom is so foolish as to book that count on the wrong side of the ledger" ~ Dijkstra -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to javaposse@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to javaposse+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en.
