Hi Robin, the next time that happens, instead of doing a hard shut down. Press 
Control+ALT+Delete, in a few seconds Jaws should speak, up arrow to shut down, 
press enter, down arrow to the restart, press enter. This is what I have done 
in the past to avoid a hard shut down. I hope this helps. Smiles.


Your humble pinhead!
Owner of the W-10 and Jaws Yahoo group! Smiles.

-----Original Message-----
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Robin Frost
Sent: Saturday, April 1, 2017 12:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing

Hi Tom and all,
I can absolutely corroborate tom's experience. It's happened to me twice in the 
past week using the most recent build of jfw 18 and Windows 10; and when it 
does none of the usual methods for resurrecting jfw work at all. further even 
if one can get NVDA or Narrator running while you have speech navigation is 
hampered to such a degree that even in the shut down menu you can't get cursor 
off shut down and onto restart no matter what you do.  It is bad, very bad 
indeed. the only way out is a hard shutdown which I so loathe doing. I haven't 
been able to pin down a cause for what brings it about so I can't make it 
happen at will but when it happens as I said it is really not nice at all.
Robin


-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Behler
Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 2:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing

Thanks, Miriam.

At least I know it's not just me, and I'm not alone.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Miriam Vieni
Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 1:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing

I called FS about this problem because I noticed it also on my 64 bit windows 7 
computer after getting Jaws 18. They said they know about the problem and are 
working on it.

Miriam

-----Original Message-----
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Tom Behler
Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 9:35 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing

I have noticed the Jaws crashing issue here as well, using Jaws 18 on my 
Windows 7 laptop.

It seems to happen occasionally when I am exiting out of a Microsoft Word 
document.

Exiting out of, and then re-starting Jaws does not seem to help, nor does the 
Windows run command.

Very disconcerting, since the only way I seem to be able to get Jaws back is to 
do a hard shutdown of the computer, followed by a re-boot.

Definitely not good.

Dr.  tom Behler from Michigan


-----Original Message-----
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Adam Ferguson
Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 8:48 AM
To: jaws-users-list <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing

Hi all.

Recently, whilst using JAWS at work, the program has been crashing 
unpredictably.  Is anyone aware of an issue which could be causing this to 
happen?  I am currently using JAWS 18.0.2530 and windows 10.

Thanks,

Adam.

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