Hi,
Really? Oh this is very interesting thank you I'll surely try it for as I said getting to the shut down menu other ways though successful I still couldn’t arrow up or down off of shut down to make another selection successfully. I've seen many crashes from which jfw recovers after a 30 second or so wait but this is a crash of a different panic inducing variety. I'll let you know if this works should I encounter it again. So have you seen such crashes as these where the normal means of resurrecting jfw fail then? Pin head don't know about that especially if this delivers me from a jam. Thanks bunches again.
Robin


-----Original Message----- From: Jim Flusche
Sent: Saturday, April 1, 2017 12:59 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing

Hi Robin, the next time that happens, instead of doing a hard shut down. Press Control+ALT+Delete, in a few seconds Jaws should speak, up arrow to shut down, press enter, down arrow to the restart, press enter. This is what I have done in the past to avoid a hard shut down. I hope this helps. Smiles.


Your humble pinhead!
Owner of the W-10 and Jaws Yahoo group! Smiles.

-----Original Message-----
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Robin Frost
Sent: Saturday, April 1, 2017 12:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing

Hi Tom and all,
I can absolutely corroborate tom's experience. It's happened to me twice in the past week using the most recent build of jfw 18 and Windows 10; and when it does none of the usual methods for resurrecting jfw work at all. further even if one can get NVDA or Narrator running while you have speech navigation is hampered to such a degree that even in the shut down menu you can't get cursor off shut down and onto restart no matter what you do. It is bad, very bad indeed. the only way out is a hard shutdown which I so loathe doing. I haven't been able to pin down a cause for what brings it about so I can't make it happen at will but when it happens as I said it is really not nice at all.
Robin


-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Behler
Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 2:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing

Thanks, Miriam.

At least I know it's not just me, and I'm not alone.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Miriam Vieni
Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 1:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing

I called FS about this problem because I noticed it also on my 64 bit windows 7 computer after getting Jaws 18. They said they know about the problem and are working on it.

Miriam

-----Original Message-----
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 9:35 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing

I have noticed the Jaws crashing issue here as well, using Jaws 18 on my Windows 7 laptop.

It seems to happen occasionally when I am exiting out of a Microsoft Word document.

Exiting out of, and then re-starting Jaws does not seem to help, nor does the Windows run command.

Very disconcerting, since the only way I seem to be able to get Jaws back is to do a hard shutdown of the computer, followed by a re-boot.

Definitely not good.

Dr.  tom Behler from Michigan


-----Original Message-----
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Adam Ferguson
Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 8:48 AM
To: jaws-users-list <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing

Hi all.

Recently, whilst using JAWS at work, the program has been crashing unpredictably. Is anyone aware of an issue which could be causing this to happen? I am currently using JAWS 18.0.2530 and windows 10.

Thanks,

Adam.

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