Attachments in Outlook 2010 messages formatted in RTF behave differently from 
those formatted in HTML or Plain Text.  Jaws 13 used the keystroke, Jaws+F5, to 
create a list of the fields in RTF messages.  This keystroke does not work in 
Jaws 14.  Others on this list suggested two workarounds that serve the purpose. 
 One involves cutting and pasting the RTF message body into MS Word and using 
Jaws+F5.  The other involves Jaws+Shift+W, which usually opens up the message 
in a browser, but instead in RTF provides a menu for manipulating the message.  
The standard methods for accessing attachments in HTML or Plain Text messages 
will not work, including shift tabbing or pressing Jaws+A.  I don't know why 
RTF messages are so different, but they are.  I'll be sure to let everyone know 
what FS tech support has to say.  I'm hoping the Jaws+F5 function will be 
restored.



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Jim Marks 
jimma...@mt.gov



-----Original Message-----
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of david
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2012 1:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Attachments in Outlook 2010 Rich Text

hello there;

when you open a message, if you shift+tab, do you hear the name of the attached 
file, and then 1of 2?
if so, right arrow once to select the attachment, now press enter, you will 
have the choice to open or save etc.



-----Original Message-----
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Justin.Williams2
Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2012 10:31 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Attachments in Outlook 2010 Rich Text

Did insert a work?

-----Original Message-----
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Marks, Jim
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2012 10:35 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Attachments in Outlook 2010 Rich Text

Thank you for the suggestions.  When I press Jaws+F7, no links show and Jaws 
recommends I press Jaws+F5.  And we already know that Jaws+F5 does not work in 
Jaws 14 for Outlook 2010 attachments in an RTF message.  

Interestingly enough, when I press Jaws+Shift+W, the RTF message does not open 
up in a browser.  Instead, a list of options pops up, and I can save the 
attachment using the save attachments option.  This latter option likely is the 
best workaround yet.

I asked Freedom Scientific for assistance, but have not had the time to work 
with tech support over the phone.  When I do, I will let the list know the 
outcome.  For sure, the function of Jaws+F5 changed in Jaws 14 within Outlook 
2010.  That useful keystroke works just fine in Jaws 13, but does not work in 
the latest Jaws version.

Someone suggested that I get state government to do something about RTF 
messages.  I appreciate that our choices are to change our own skills and 
technologies or to change our environments.  Before insisting that the world 
change for me, I'd like to restore the functionality earlier Jaws versions 
provided.  With the two workarounds provided on this listserv, I don't think I 
have to go to the extreme of asking everyone to refrain from using RTF formats 
in Outlook.

Best!




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Jim Marks
jimma...@mt.gov


-----Original Message-----
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike O'Brien
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 7:47 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Attachments in Outlook 2010 Rich Text

Hi

I assume you have tried bringing  up the links list with JAWSkey+f7 or
opening the message in your browser with shift+JAWSkey+w and trying the
links list to see if the attachment appears.  I don't know if viewing the
message in your browser will work for RTF messages.  If these don't work, I
would open a problem with Freedom Scientific.


-----Original Message-----
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Marks, Jim
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 3:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Attachments in Outlook 2010 Rich Text

Yes, Outlook 2010 attachments in an RTF message are imbedded in the e-mail.
I think RTF messages always imbed attachments in the body of an e-mail in
Outlook.  Outlook messages in HTML or Plain Text formats display the
attachments in the message header.  I sometimes had luck with the method
described below for Jaws 13, but not for Jaws 14.  It was hit and miss for
me in Jaws 13 and earlier versions because the link is difficult or
impossible to locate in some messages.  With Jaws 14, I cannot see the
imbedded link at all in an RTF message.



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Jim Marks
jimma...@mt.gov



-----Original Message-----
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Bissett, Tom
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 11:46 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Attachments in Outlook 2010 Rich Text

Hi,  Are these the ones that are not actually an attachment but rather the
ones that are embedded in the email?
If they are the ones embedded in the email I locate them with the PcCursor
and press the application key for a list of options one of which is to save.

Tom Bisset


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