I asked to be pointed in the right direction to do so, and got zero takers.
Something like "JBoss clustering is based on the Bar Theory Of Distributed
Design being researched at Foo University" or "take a look at
KickAssCluster.java and BulletProofFailover.java and work your way outward."
I try to pad through CVS and I find Utter Chaos with full attics everywhere,
can't get a perspective on what's going on today let alone get a real handle
on any clustering issues.
You say "Enough talk, go do it" to which I respond "Great! Throw me a
line!" You certainly can't expect me to document whatever sounds good on
paper whether or not it's actually true, like certain unnamed commercial
vendors:
"Sure, <J2EE server> does failover. When it fails, it falls over."
chris
-----Original Message-----
From: Dain Sundstrom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 4:51 PM
To: Trawick, James
Cc: 'Murphy, Patrick'; Jboss-User@Lists. Sourceforge. Net
Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] RE: [JBoss-user] JBOSS 3.x FINAL
Let me get this. You are mad because you didn't get some congratulatory
email within three hours of your offer? So here you go:
To quote Nike "Just do it".
If you want help, I suggest you use the Marines saying "Follow Me".
And from me. "Enough talk, go do it"
When you eventually get suck ask for help.
-dain
Trawick, James wrote:
> (taking the developers off this discussion... they don't need to hear
about
> stupid human tricks)
>
> THANK you!
>
> If I believed these people I'd think I was going crazy. Notice how they
> never even paid attention to my offers to help out in documentation. I've
> worked with several open projects in my time, and JBoss has proven to be
by
> far the most closed-minded. Don't get me wrong, they wrote a beautiful
> piece of code. Just don't try to talk to them.
>
> chris
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Murphy, Patrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 4:08 PM
> To: 'Trawick, James'
> Cc: Jboss-Development@Lists. Sourceforge. Net; Jboss-User@Lists.
> Sourceforge. Net
> Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] RE: [JBoss-user] JBOSS 3.x FINAL
>
>
> Flashline has problems dealing with some credit card companies. I also
> personally tried several time to purchase the documentation. I did
finally
> get ahold of a Flashline tech who could only tell me that the credit card
> company rejected the transaction. This was with a GM MasterCard. I
finally
> did get my employer to purchase the doco with a corporate credit card and
> everything worked fine. So, you may just need a different credit card, or
> contact the credit card company to see why they reject the transaction.
>
> Patrick Murphy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Trawick, James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 3:33 PM
> To: Jboss-Development@Lists. Sourceforge. Net; Jboss-User@Lists.
> Sourceforge. Net
> Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] RE: [JBoss-user] JBOSS 3.x FINAL
>
>
> Not unfounded, personally proven.
>
> In any case there needs to be some sort of kickstart and executive summary
> for the new JBoss features. If it means that I'll finally get the answers
> I'm looking for without holding for three hours and/or putting up with the
> hellfire here, I'll be more than happy to help produce that.
>
> I was not aware that the docs for sale were actually available. My
> experience has been the exact opposite. On three separate occaisons over
> the past couple of months I've attempted to purchase the clustering
> documentation. Each time I received a message saying that there was a
> problem with their side of the transaction and a support rep would be in
> contact with me. Despite multiple attempts to open communications about
> these cases with Flashline, they have failed to do so. Emails apparently
> went to the bit bucket and their phone support reps have proven to be
> anywhere from rude to utterly incompetant. So for my purposes, the docs
> aren't real because for whatever reason I can't get to them despite my
> willingness to pay the mere $10 for quality documentation. At least they
> didn't charge me for it.
>
> chris
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bill Burke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 3:10 PM
> To: Trawick, James
> Cc: Jboss-Development@Lists. Sourceforge. Net; Jboss-User@Lists.
> Sourceforge. Net
> Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] RE: [JBoss-user] JBOSS 3.x FINAL
>
>
> Clustering docs are available for purchase.
>
>
http://www.flashline.com/components/productsbyvendor.jsp?&vendorid=1376&affi
> liateid=260343
>
> I've also written an article on "clustering" JBoss 2.4.x
>
> http://www.onjava.com/pub/a/onjava/2001/09/18/jboss.html
>
> Clustering features in JBoss beta:
> HA-JNDI, HA-RMI, EJBs(EB, SLSB, SFSB) Failover and load-balancing
>
> The code for HTTP Session Failover is in CVS, but is a work in progress.
> Ask Sacha and Julian how it's going. I don't work on this stuff. HTTP
> Session Failover will probably only be available for Jetty.
>
> I don't know what you're talking about when you say docs for sale aren't
> real, because we've already sold at least a 100 copies of the clustering
> docs. Sacha and I have gotten good feedback on these docs so your
> complaints are unfounded.
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
>>Trawick, James
>>Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 2:28 PM
>>To: 'David Ward'
>>Cc: 'marc fleury'; Jboss-Development@Lists. Sourceforge. Net;
>>Jboss-User@Lists. Sourceforge. Net
>>Subject: [JBoss-dev] RE: [JBoss-user] JBOSS 3.x FINAL
>>
>>
>>What I'm really interested in is the more corporate questions (we're still
>>battling for JBoss over Weblogic, and clustering is a real sore
>>point). How
>>does JBoss 3 clustering interact with web container clustering?
>>If they're
>>completely separate (which I'm pretty sure is the case, as it was
>>last time
>>I walked through the code), how can I put together a full clustered J2EE
>>stack with JBoss and (for example) Tomcat/Catalina? To what level does
>>JBoss provide high-availability? What are some failover scenarios? How
>>does one initiate a graceful failover for server maintenance? How
>>flexible/controllable is JBoss clustering in reality?
>>
>>
>
> Failover scenarios?
> - failed network card
> - server crash
> - application crash
> - What else?
>
> Initiate graceful failover for Server maintainance?
> Just gracefully shutdown jboss. The Cluster dynamically figures out
> topology. Topology information is piggy-backed over invocation responses
to
> client proxies when it changes.
>
> How flexible/controllable?
> We wanted to keep things as simple as possible for the initial release to
> reduce code complexity and make sure we get the core things correct. If
you
> want to know how flexible, buy the docs. It's only $10.00.
>
> Bill
>
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