Not unfounded, personally proven.

In any case there needs to be some sort of kickstart and executive summary
for the new JBoss features.  If it means that I'll finally get the answers
I'm looking for without holding for three hours and/or putting up with the
hellfire here, I'll be more than happy to help produce that.

I was not aware that the docs for sale were actually available.  My
experience has been the exact opposite.  On three separate occaisons over
the past couple of months I've attempted to purchase the clustering
documentation.  Each time I received a message saying that there was a
problem with their side of the transaction and a support rep would be in
contact with me.  Despite multiple attempts to open communications about
these cases with Flashline, they have failed to do so.  Emails apparently
went to the bit bucket and their phone support reps have proven to be
anywhere from rude to utterly incompetant.  So for my purposes, the docs
aren't real because for whatever reason I can't get to them despite my
willingness to pay the mere $10 for quality documentation.  At least they
didn't charge me for it.

chris

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Burke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 3:10 PM
To: Trawick, James
Cc: Jboss-Development@Lists. Sourceforge. Net; Jboss-User@Lists.
Sourceforge. Net
Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] RE: [JBoss-user] JBOSS 3.x FINAL


Clustering docs are available for purchase.

http://www.flashline.com/components/productsbyvendor.jsp?&vendorid=1376&affi
liateid=260343

I've also written an article on "clustering" JBoss 2.4.x

http://www.onjava.com/pub/a/onjava/2001/09/18/jboss.html

Clustering features in JBoss beta:
HA-JNDI, HA-RMI, EJBs(EB, SLSB, SFSB) Failover and load-balancing

The code for HTTP Session Failover is in CVS, but is a work in progress.
Ask Sacha and Julian how it's going.  I don't work on this stuff.  HTTP
Session Failover will probably only be available for Jetty.

I don't know what you're talking about when you say docs for sale aren't
real, because we've already sold at least a 100 copies of the clustering
docs.  Sacha and I have gotten good feedback on these docs so your
complaints are unfounded.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Trawick, James
> Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 2:28 PM
> To: 'David Ward'
> Cc: 'marc fleury'; Jboss-Development@Lists. Sourceforge. Net;
> Jboss-User@Lists. Sourceforge. Net
> Subject: [JBoss-dev] RE: [JBoss-user] JBOSS 3.x FINAL
>
>
> What I'm really interested in is the more corporate questions (we're still
> battling for JBoss over Weblogic, and clustering is a real sore
> point).  How
> does JBoss 3 clustering interact with web container clustering?
> If they're
> completely separate (which I'm pretty sure is the case, as it was
> last time
> I walked through the code), how can I put together a full clustered J2EE
> stack with JBoss and (for example) Tomcat/Catalina?  To what level does
> JBoss provide high-availability?  What are some failover scenarios?  How
> does one initiate a graceful failover for server maintenance?  How
> flexible/controllable is JBoss clustering in reality?
>

Failover scenarios?
- failed network card
- server crash
- application crash
- What else?

Initiate graceful failover for Server maintainance?
Just gracefully shutdown jboss.  The Cluster dynamically figures out
topology.  Topology information is piggy-backed over invocation responses to
client proxies when it changes.

How flexible/controllable?
We wanted to keep things as simple as possible for the initial release to
reduce code complexity and make sure we get the core things correct.  If you
want to know how flexible, buy the docs.  It's only $10.00.

Bill

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