Hello:
I just want to make sure I understand right. You can not buy the soft ware
Dec-talk 32 from any body else except HJ, because it won't work if jfw, is
that right. I was thinking about buying it from Ann Morris in a couple of
months, you see she has it cheaper that HJ, and I was told not to buy it
from HJ because then it won't work with any other screen reader except jfw.
I am not trying to put HJ down, but if this is true, it really isn't fare to
us, to have to just buy there product, if we can get the same thing from so
other place but cheaper, with the same assurance of usage as what they
offer. Also it should not be limited to just being used with jfw. You see,
I didn't have choice about what screen reader I got, because it was bought
for be by the state, and you take what they feel like you can use. No, I am
not putting down jfw, I love it, and I don't think I would change even if I
could.
Cathy and guide dog Tilly, Black Lab:
-----Original Message-----
From: Carol Pearson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Saturday, January 23, 1999 1:01 PM
Subject: RE: Which internal synthesizer work well with Jfw? -Reply
>Hi Bill,
>
>You're probably right, that some of the problems are video related. The
>laptop is particularly slow and I did see an explanation of this on the
>List a month or two back - can anyone remind me why video cards are so slow
>on laptops - but on my desktop the cards are OK but Dectalk Express is so
>much better.
>
>
>--
>Carol
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
>
>At 01:47 23/01/99 -0500, bill cameron wrote:
>>carol i am not takeing any shots at you, you are right, that is why i
would
>>buy the double talk, hardware is better under 300 mhz.
>>
>>with that said be aware that while you have problems can you be sure it
is
>>not video related?
>>
>>with respect to stability?
>>
>>those s t b cards seem to have more driver trouble than other brands, and
>not
>>just for blind users either.
>>
>>their is a reason compaque and hp pick matrox, good drivers.
>>
>>if you lived on this side of the ocean i would give you a video card.
>>
>>nobody deserves the trouble you had.
>>
>>bill cameron
>>
>>At 12:00 AM 1/23/99 +0000, you wrote:
>>>Hi Bill,
>>>
>>>Thanks for your input on synths. However, by my experience, I am not
>>>convinced that this is the case for all of us. (I'm still using a 133
>>>Pentium with a video card which is just passable, remember.)
>>>
>>>Although good improvements have been made to Keynote and it is now
>>>relatively stable for many, it seems to depend upon one's computer and
>>>configuration just how stable it is. It is still prone to cut out on our
>>>laptop when a lot of processing has to be done and, before I get shot
down
>>>in flames again for this message, let me add that of course it may be due
>>>to laptop settings that I personally have been unable to resolve and not
>>>the direct fault of the Keynote synth itself.
>>>
>>>However, whatever the reason, for me the software synths are still not as
>>>sbable as I would like to see them. Well, once HJ has done something
with
>>>the CTRL-ALT-DEL combination I shall probably feel a little better - more
>>>in control of the crashes - but that's it for now.
>>>
>>>
>>>--
>>>Carol Pearson
>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>At 15:30 22/01/99 -0500, bill cameron wrote:
>>>>carol as a user of 2 software synths, keynote and dec talk access 32, i
>can
>>>>tell you that if i was buying a hardward synth, it would be external and
>>>cheap,
>>>>like the spirit from artic that cost 300 dollars but it emulates an
accent
>>> so
>>>>it shall work down the road in n t.
>>>>software speech provides great quality voice while the cheaper synth
>>>provides
>>>>access in all enviroments.
>>>>
>>>>if i had to buy internal i would also combine double talk with access
32.
>>>>the only reason for buying internal is if i did not have a irq available
>>>in the
>>>>system.
>>>>reason for combineing access 32 with double talk is that access 32
shall
>>>work
>>>>in windows n t as well.
>>>>
>>>>now if i where poor, i would go software only and with out a doubt the
>>>synth i
>>>>bought would be the keynote software synth, also called multmedia.
>>>>
>>>>by the way it is extremely stable in every respect, and for the last
>>>month it
>>>>is all i am using.
>>>>reason being i pulled my hardware synth out of old system to install in
new
>>>>system.
>>>>
>>>>no problems, since they released their second version or upgrade, really
>was
>>>>bug patches about 6 months back.
>>>>also if the user uses a dos screen reader that supports the keynote soft
>>>synth
>>>>then dos box access is still possible.
>>>>
>>>>so keynote is the best software synth that i have used in the win 9 x
>>>>enviroment, of course their are many i have not used
>>>>
>>>>one other thing, if keynote does run into a problem its a good thang jfw
>>>>provides a back up software synth.
>>>>
>>>>the only down side to the keynote is that it does not work in win n t.
>>>>
>>>>bill
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>At 01:09 PM 1/22/99 +0000, you wrote:
>>>>>Hi there,
>>>>>
>>>>>Well, I don't like the idea of internal software synths only. I think
>>>>>there's rather more work to be done before I'd be entirely happy
>without my
>>>>>Dectalk Express. Even the best of the software synths are not so
stable
>>>>>(certainly with 95) and I still like nipping to DOS now and again. I
>guess
>>>>>if I move to NT that won't be an option anyway.
>>>>>
>>>>>I guess what I really want to say is that I still feel we should be
>>>>>encouraging HJ and makers of synthersizers to continue to make
>improvements
>>>>>here as the software synths are just not totally up to it yet.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>>Carol Pearson
>>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>At 11:00 22/01/99 +1100, Sean Murphy wrote:
>>>>>>Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I will answer your two questions in the quoted message below. My
>>>>>>comments are preceded by SM:.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Tim Culhane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 21/January/1999 10:40pm >>>
>>>>>>What is the reason for this?
>>>>>>SM: If you mean why internal synths will have a short life spand in
>>>>>>computerrs, the answer is very simple. NT at this point of time does
>>>>>>not have any ssill drivers. Until Arkenstone brings out NT drivers,
>>>>>>you wil not get your Internal synths to work. Yes, you could sya that
>>>>>>JFW or any other screen reader should develop their own drivers. But
>>>>>>they will not do so because new computers will not have any ISA slots
>>>>>>in them. ISA slots are being phased out. Also software synthesizers
>>>>>>are becoming more common and cost less. Using Australian prices, the
>>>>>>cost of a Dectalk PC or Express is around the $1500 and the Dectalk
>>>>>>Access 32 is about $400 and if you buy a cheap sound card, you are
>>>>>>looking about $100. A total of $500, which means I save $1000. In
>>>>>>other words, the main stream market is seeing the advantages of
>>>>>>software speech and this will completely change the way that synths
>>>>>>are sold.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Will there be an alternative?
>>>>>>SM: Software synths are the replacement.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Regards
>>>>>>Sean.
>>>>>>-
>>>>>>Visit the jfw ml web page: http://yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au/~nallan/jfw
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>-
>>>>>Visit the jfw ml web page: http://yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au/~nallan/jfw
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>-
>>>>Visit the jfw ml web page: http://yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au/~nallan/jfw
>>>>
>>>
>>>-
>>>Visit the jfw ml web page: http://yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au/~nallan/jfw
>>
>>
>>-
>>Visit the jfw ml web page: http://yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au/~nallan/jfw
>>
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