I was told this information from Henter-Joyce. The customer service person told
me that only a Dectalk sold by Henter-Joyce would work with their products.
Dick AB7HW and the Wonder Guide Dog Scotty
Cathy wrote:
> Hello:
> I just want to make sure I understand right. You can not buy the soft ware
> Dec-talk 32 from any body else except HJ, because it won't work if jfw, is
> that right. I was thinking about buying it from Ann Morris in a couple of
> months, you see she has it cheaper that HJ, and I was told not to buy it
> from HJ because then it won't work with any other screen reader except jfw.
> I am not trying to put HJ down, but if this is true, it really isn't fare to
> us, to have to just buy there product, if we can get the same thing from so
> other place but cheaper, with the same assurance of usage as what they
> offer. Also it should not be limited to just being used with jfw. You see,
> I didn't have choice about what screen reader I got, because it was bought
> for be by the state, and you take what they feel like you can use. No, I am
> not putting down jfw, I love it, and I don't think I would change even if I
> could.
> Cathy and guide dog Tilly, Black Lab:
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Carol Pearson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Saturday, January 23, 1999 1:01 PM
> Subject: RE: Which internal synthesizer work well with Jfw? -Reply
>
> >Hi Bill,
> >
> >You're probably right, that some of the problems are video related. The
> >laptop is particularly slow and I did see an explanation of this on the
> >List a month or two back - can anyone remind me why video cards are so slow
> >on laptops - but on my desktop the cards are OK but Dectalk Express is so
> >much better.
> >
> >
> >--
> >Carol
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >At 01:47 23/01/99 -0500, bill cameron wrote:
> >>carol i am not takeing any shots at you, you are right, that is why i
> would
> >>buy the double talk, hardware is better under 300 mhz.
> >>
> >>with that said be aware that while you have problems can you be sure it
> is
> >>not video related?
> >>
> >>with respect to stability?
> >>
> >>those s t b cards seem to have more driver trouble than other brands, and
> >not
> >>just for blind users either.
> >>
> >>their is a reason compaque and hp pick matrox, good drivers.
> >>
> >>if you lived on this side of the ocean i would give you a video card.
> >>
> >>nobody deserves the trouble you had.
> >>
> >>bill cameron
> >>
> >>At 12:00 AM 1/23/99 +0000, you wrote:
> >>>Hi Bill,
> >>>
> >>>Thanks for your input on synths. However, by my experience, I am not
> >>>convinced that this is the case for all of us. (I'm still using a 133
> >>>Pentium with a video card which is just passable, remember.)
> >>>
> >>>Although good improvements have been made to Keynote and it is now
> >>>relatively stable for many, it seems to depend upon one's computer and
> >>>configuration just how stable it is. It is still prone to cut out on our
> >>>laptop when a lot of processing has to be done and, before I get shot
> down
> >>>in flames again for this message, let me add that of course it may be due
> >>>to laptop settings that I personally have been unable to resolve and not
> >>>the direct fault of the Keynote synth itself.
> >>>
> >>>However, whatever the reason, for me the software synths are still not as
> >>>sbable as I would like to see them. Well, once HJ has done something
> with
> >>>the CTRL-ALT-DEL combination I shall probably feel a little better - more
> >>>in control of the crashes - but that's it for now.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>--
> >>>Carol Pearson
> >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>At 15:30 22/01/99 -0500, bill cameron wrote:
> >>>>carol as a user of 2 software synths, keynote and dec talk access 32, i
> >can
> >>>>tell you that if i was buying a hardward synth, it would be external and
> >>>cheap,
> >>>>like the spirit from artic that cost 300 dollars but it emulates an
> accent
> >>> so
> >>>>it shall work down the road in n t.
> >>>>software speech provides great quality voice while the cheaper synth
> >>>provides
> >>>>access in all enviroments.
> >>>>
> >>>>if i had to buy internal i would also combine double talk with access
> 32.
> >>>>the only reason for buying internal is if i did not have a irq available
> >>>in the
> >>>>system.
> >>>>reason for combineing access 32 with double talk is that access 32
> shall
> >>>work
> >>>>in windows n t as well.
> >>>>
> >>>>now if i where poor, i would go software only and with out a doubt the
> >>>synth i
> >>>>bought would be the keynote software synth, also called multmedia.
> >>>>
> >>>>by the way it is extremely stable in every respect, and for the last
> >>>month it
> >>>>is all i am using.
> >>>>reason being i pulled my hardware synth out of old system to install in
> new
> >>>>system.
> >>>>
> >>>>no problems, since they released their second version or upgrade, really
> >was
> >>>>bug patches about 6 months back.
> >>>>also if the user uses a dos screen reader that supports the keynote soft
> >>>synth
> >>>>then dos box access is still possible.
> >>>>
> >>>>so keynote is the best software synth that i have used in the win 9 x
> >>>>enviroment, of course their are many i have not used
> >>>>
> >>>>one other thing, if keynote does run into a problem its a good thang jfw
> >>>>provides a back up software synth.
> >>>>
> >>>>the only down side to the keynote is that it does not work in win n t.
> >>>>
> >>>>bill
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>At 01:09 PM 1/22/99 +0000, you wrote:
> >>>>>Hi there,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Well, I don't like the idea of internal software synths only. I think
> >>>>>there's rather more work to be done before I'd be entirely happy
> >without my
> >>>>>Dectalk Express. Even the best of the software synths are not so
> stable
> >>>>>(certainly with 95) and I still like nipping to DOS now and again. I
> >guess
> >>>>>if I move to NT that won't be an option anyway.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>I guess what I really want to say is that I still feel we should be
> >>>>>encouraging HJ and makers of synthersizers to continue to make
> >improvements
> >>>>>here as the software synths are just not totally up to it yet.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>--
> >>>>>Carol Pearson
> >>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>At 11:00 22/01/99 +1100, Sean Murphy wrote:
> >>>>>>Hi,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>I will answer your two questions in the quoted message below. My
> >>>>>>comments are preceded by SM:.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> "Tim Culhane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 21/January/1999 10:40pm >>>
> >>>>>>What is the reason for this?
> >>>>>>SM: If you mean why internal synths will have a short life spand in
> >>>>>>computerrs, the answer is very simple. NT at this point of time does
> >>>>>>not have any ssill drivers. Until Arkenstone brings out NT drivers,
> >>>>>>you wil not get your Internal synths to work. Yes, you could sya that
> >>>>>>JFW or any other screen reader should develop their own drivers. But
> >>>>>>they will not do so because new computers will not have any ISA slots
> >>>>>>in them. ISA slots are being phased out. Also software synthesizers
> >>>>>>are becoming more common and cost less. Using Australian prices, the
> >>>>>>cost of a Dectalk PC or Express is around the $1500 and the Dectalk
> >>>>>>Access 32 is about $400 and if you buy a cheap sound card, you are
> >>>>>>looking about $100. A total of $500, which means I save $1000. In
> >>>>>>other words, the main stream market is seeing the advantages of
> >>>>>>software speech and this will completely change the way that synths
> >>>>>>are sold.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Will there be an alternative?
> >>>>>>SM: Software synths are the replacement.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Regards
> >>>>>>Sean.
> >>>>>>-
> >>>>>>Visit the jfw ml web page: http://yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au/~nallan/jfw
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>-
> >>>>>Visit the jfw ml web page: http://yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au/~nallan/jfw
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>-
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> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>-
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> >>
> >>
> >>-
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> >>
> >
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> >
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