Ditto!  I installed a software package that failed to install properly, and
re-installing, or removing via Add/Remove programs wouldn't work.  It loaded
modules on startup that were not in the Start Menu/Programs/Startup, nor in
win.ini or system.ini.  Rather than tracking  down that puppy in the
Registry, I used a utility named "Started" to remove it from the auto-load
function.  This allowed me to use another uninstaller to remove the entire
package.  It would've been nice to just access the task menu to remove that
blockage, but...
Another item I've since found is to use the Run... option in the Start Menu
and run "taskman".  It will give access to items loaded.

Thanks,
Dennis Brown, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Visit the BlindProgramming  web site at
http://brown99.home.mindspring.com


-----Original Message-----
From: bill cameron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Monday, March 29, 1999 12:54 AM
Subject: Re: [Fwd: Fwd: A comparative review of Window eyes and JFW's
Internet Access]


>david well i wish what you say here is true, after closeing the stuff on
task
>bar and installing win fax, i ended up with a corrupted version of win fax,
98
>will not allow me to uninstall it because it is corrupted, and the whole
thing
>destroyed my uninstaller.
>
>i discovered that after running file compare.
>it also corrupted 4 other files.
>now what i think  you fail to realize is how many things are actually
loaded in
>background.
>
>plus it is microsoft saying use end task  before installing software, they
are
>not saying just what is on the task bar.
>i have known to many bad installs and this is usually the reason.
>in fact the editors of p c world had this problem with office 97, in fact
so
>many had this problem  microsoft had to rush out service release 1 to fix
it.
>so if it happens with the most commonly used softwaare maid by major
companies
>i am certain it is going on with small software companies.
>in fact many specify that the user use end task.
>
>
>bill cameron
>At 01:52 AM 3/29/99 -0500, you wrote:
>>I agree that the
>>end task menu should be accessible, but let's keep things in
>>perspective. Closing the apps on the task bar is sufficient to prevent
>>damaging your system when installing software. The only time you're
>>likely to use alt control delete is when the machine locks up or won't
>>shut down properly. In short, in's nice to have but you won't use it
>>every day. In theory you're right. The operating system should be
>>fully accessible before working on individual applications. But in
>>practice, this is not a good policy. People buy computers for the
>>applications not the OS. Otherwise an inferior system like Windows
>>wouldn't be so popular. I know, for example, that I got much more use
>>and benefit from the IE4 scripts than I ever could have gotten out of
>>being able to access the end task menu.
>>By the way, access to the internet is much better with IE4 than with
>>IE3 or Netscape. I know because i've used all 3 programs extensively.
>>
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>
>
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