On Nov 17, 5:24 pm, "Ala'a Ibrahim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
<quote>
> Hey, what happened to your unanswered questions? com'on ....
> I'm so sorry sir, as I have crossed my lines with your highness,
</quote>
ya akhi enta leash ma bte3raf te7ki be 2adab ? khalas est7i 3ad
law enta bte3raf te7ki be 2adab o bedoon takhweet kan kamalet ma3ak
I have no
> idea about programming, who am I what am I doing here.
>
> glad you noticed that it's going no where, if it was going anywhere, i
> would've stopped a long time ago,
> Also I guess it's a good thing that I can change to another language, PHP
> doesn't own me. and I don't think that I would still be writing code kman
> akamen saneh.
>
> On 11/17/07, Amer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
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> > walla im having a lot of fun here with u PHP guys that u think u r in
> > the market
> > u 2, dont take personally
> > o badamak ma bte3raf Java leash bte7ki then !
> > anyway, this discussion going no where
> > fa khaleek be el PHP taba3tak, kaman akamen saneh la7alak bet7awel
> > 3ala eshi tani
> > thanx for making my day :)
> > bye
>
> > On Nov 17, 3:15 pm, "Ala'a Ibrahim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > It seams that I was awfully good in the last period to deserve such Fun
> > in
> > > one day, am I in heaven or what?
> > > you know, I thought Java Programmers are more mature that VB
> > Programmers,
> > > but in the End, every community has it's group of people that keeps
> > drawing
> > > it back.
> > > I do Program in PHP, Perl, C ... etc. but in the end of the day, I don't
> > > consider myself as a PHP Developer, or a PHP Programmer, I am a
> > Developer, I
> > > don't tie myself to one technology, man there is a whole big world out
> > > there.
> > > well, yeah, we'll leave you that small cake, cause you are already
> > loosing
> > > it to the .Net community, just leave us to concentrate on the other 2
> > > billion users out there, we'll leave the rest for you.
> > > Yeah, maybe I don't know that much about Java, but I'm in the market
> > dude, I
> > > see what's going on.
> > > also, have you heard of Non-disclosure agreements, I just can't tell you
> > > that we were paid such and such for a project, but believe me, millions
> > were
> > > paid.
> > > Do you know, what is the difference between a debate and an argument, if
> > you
> > > do, what is going on here is neither one, it's just me having FUN :P.
>
> > > well dude, I have no intention to insult you or anything, I don't know
> > you,
> > > so don't take it personal, so my point was, I didn't get the point of me
> > not
> > > answering you, so if you could please just point out your questions,
> > list
> > > them, preferably in a close question type, and I will be more than happy
> > > answering them.
>
> > > On 11/17/07, Amer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > man, all i wanna say that PHP do websites like facebook, admin sites
> > > > ashyaa2 heak
> > > > bas what about big Enterprise solutions ? SME, EGov, financial
> > > > systems...etc
> > > > khaleeko be el Websites ya jama3et el PHP, o sebo el big projects o
> > > > big financial system
> > > > la jama3et el JAVA :)
>
> > > > On Nov 17, 2:09 pm, "Ahmad alsane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > check this website, its in .igg.com
> > > > > top.igg.com
>
> > > > > these websites are owned by Internet Gaming Gate and those websites
> > > > handles
> > > > > a huge number of kids playing the game and also the profile is
> > connected
> > > > to
> > > > > the game - also you may have a look at some Enterprise projects
> > made
> > > > with
> > > > > PHP.
>
> > > > > i just wanna say, if the comparison you are trying to make is to
> > help
> > > > you to
> > > > > choose between Languages or to help to classify Languages, then you
> > need
> > > > a
> > > > > set of characteristics. what the language can do is not of them
> > because
> > > > its
> > > > > the programmer who can do.
>
> > > > > regards
>
> > > > > On Nov 17, 2007 2:00 PM, Al-Faisal El-Dajani <
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > Hmm, Moayyad, what do you mean "PHP hides a lot of things from
> > me"?
> > > > could
> > > > > > you explain a bit more?
>
> > > > > > On Nov 17, 2007 12:48 PM, moayyad sadi <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
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> > > > > > > Here is my point about JAVA
>
> > > > > > > FOR THE RECORDS I HATE BOTH JAVA AND PHP
>
> > > > > > > first I used to hate Java
> > > > > > > then I used to hate java more and more because I read
> > > > > > > Debian Java policy which clarify that Java is not as free as
> > freedom
> > > > > > > nor opensource for several reasons
> > > > > > > then I used to hate java but not more
> > > > > > > because Sun had GPLed it, I love that
> > > > > > > but that don't change the fact I already hate Java
>
> > > > > > > WHY ?
>
> > > > > > > Java is too slow.
>
> > > > > > > I hate PHP, WHY ?
>
> > > > > > > PHP hides alot of things from me
>
> > > > > > > What is my favorite ?
>
> > > > > > > I love Perl and Python
>
> > > > > > > Why ?
> > > > > > > Python is simple and clean and fast and do optimizing and have
> > > > several
> > > > > > > models
> > > > > > > and can be embed into apache through Pythonmod
>
> > > > > > > and Perl is all that but not clean it's so quick and dirty
> > > > > > > perlmod for apache was even before Pythonmod
> > > > > > > it's maintained by Apache team themselves
>
> > > > > > > Do you know that Fedora Core Installer and system tools are
> > written
> > > > in
> > > > > > > Python (PyGTK+)
> > > > > > > while Mandriva Control Center is in Perl
>
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Al-Faisal El-Dajani
> > > > > > > Phone: +962-7-79 73 70 50
> > > > > > > P.O Box: 140056
> > > > > > > 11814 Amman, Jordan- Hide quoted text -
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