kasey wrote:
"As Vince said it's only tissue
until it is viable outside the womb.  Take the life issue
away
and reduce the debate.  I believe Vince is a Christian
also."


Vince certainly believes that Vince is a Christian... 

I don't believe that I said "it's only tissue" and if I
did, that was not contextually what I was going for so
perhaps I mis spoke.  It is tissue which is potential life
but it is not life itself and not a person.  Becuase of
what this particular tissue represents, it makes the
question very serious indeed.  

Kasey also said the definition of when life begins is a
religious question.  That I would exactly agree with, it is
a religious question, and that is why one particular
religious interpretation cannot be engrained in law.  There
is great divergence within Christendom on that answer, as
well as within Judaism.  And there is inconsistency within
the opinions.  And then there is the fact that we have the
establishment clause on religion in the Constitution anyway
let alone the diversity of beliefs, which leads us back to
being pro choice for the law.  People are then left free to
practice their particular beliefs in accordance with the
case law that does govern abortion stemming from Roe v
Wade, with grants a limited right to an abortion in the 2nd
trimester and a very, very limited right to abortion in the
3rd trimester.

The Roman Catholic understanding is not that old as being
canon or doctrine., very recent, within the last several
hundred years.  No part of the church ever considered life
as being dated friom conception, just the potential for
life being dated such, which is why liturgically
miscarriages are not considered deaths, but medical events,
and a miscarried fetus is disposed of (hopefuilly with
respect) and not accorded  a funeral, because a person did
not die, rather, a medical event occured.  A tragedy
certainly, but not death, because there was yet no life. 

Vince

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