I think the thread just ended. :D

If you have some time, download and comment my plugins:
http://jqtreevial.sourceforge.net

And:
http;//isabeladraw.sourceforge.net (official versioning)
http://calango.barquettenet.net/~dirceu/isabela_draw/jquery.isabela_draw(nightly
version)

Thank you very much!

2008/12/17 Olivier Percebois-Garve <perceb...@gmail.com>

> Don't worry with your english, I'm not a native.
>
> So you want to know how to make json request ?
>
> Do you still have a question, or do you want just to discuss stuffs ?
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 5:21 PM, Dirceu Barquette <
> dirceu.barque...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The initial question was just about libraries.
>> The thread now pointing to CMS. This is my goal! Write in English about
>> this is so much difficult to me.
>> I have been doing many apps (my job...) using jquery.
>> I follow this group just to learn more with others developers. When I have
>> some dummy doubt about jQuery I just googlit and "voila"!! jQuery is a
>> fatastic tool!! But I want much more and it is truely possible using jQuery
>> thoughts.
>>
>> This is just a dream, but reachable: View components builded with jQuery
>> that can request data from server (controller). Controller can be builded
>> using any language you wish, but the answer just is a JSON! jQuery read easy
>> this answer and put data in the component previously created. You know?
>>
>> Thanks again for your interest!
>>
>>
>> Dirceu Barquette
>>
>> 2008/12/17 Olivier Percebois-Garve <perceb...@gmail.com>
>>
>>>
>>> using a MVC framework such as cakephp or zend framework, you can put the
>>> html in a view, and on top of that view insert the js. If you use the "head"
>>> helper, you can make it be inserted between in the <head></head>. same for
>>> css.
>>> The I advice you to put your javascript code into seperate files, one for
>>> each plugins.
>>>
>>> This way, every time a view is requested, the relevant js will be called,
>>> and with HTML + js + css, you've your widget.
>>>
>>> Is that answering your question ?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 4:38 PM, Dirceu Barquette <
>>> dirceu.barque...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Forgive me the wrong words and semanthics. My mind is a tool for
>>>> automatic translation...
>>>>
>>>> You are right about new thread. But in other words I want build the
>>>> "view" part only. To do this I need some IDE. See this IDE like a GUI
>>>> builder (with components ready to use).
>>>>
>>>> Second:
>>>> If an user wants a list, he doesn't need write:
>>>> $('<li/>')
>>>>    .attr({id:'li-1'})
>>>>    .css({list-style-image:'url(./imgs/blah.png)'})
>>>>    .addClass('generalList')
>>>>    .text('blah')
>>>>    .appendTo('#ul-id');
>>>>
>>>> End users just wants: "click on the element and choice what he wants".
>>>>
>>>> Put these two topics together and you have an application that build
>>>> applications. Or a CMS!!!
>>>>
>>>> Thanks a lot!!!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dirceu Barquette
>>>>
>>>> 2008/12/17 Olivier Percebois-Garve <perceb...@gmail.com>
>>>>
>>>>> Dirceu
>>>>>
>>>>> is this a different question ? in that case you should start a new
>>>>> thread with a different title
>>>>> also if you are using a tool for automatic translation, just mention
>>>>> it.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm trying to understand what is your question.
>>>>>
>>>>> You are trying to create a client-side widget in a MVC framework, and
>>>>> you dont know how to structurate it ?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Olivier
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 2:42 PM, Dirceu Barquette <
>>>>> dirceu.barque...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ok!
>>>>>> Thanks to all!. But the right "stuff" I want is everything like this:
>>>>>> http://tof2k.com/ext/formbuilder
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I want to build components for the "view layer". People (me included)
>>>>>> has been building widgets and plugins for topics apps. Most of them mixes
>>>>>> among styles and logic to build it and force you develop controller at 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> same time.
>>>>>> When I develop an application, first I used to put any components
>>>>>> without styles at the view layer. These components doesn't need to know 
>>>>>> how
>>>>>> the logic works to. It must exists without "know" weather model or
>>>>>> controller exists and has own logic. "View" is a complete application by
>>>>>> itself. Styles comes latter... Web designers doesn't need to know how 
>>>>>> jQuery
>>>>>> works. They need stylesheet only.
>>>>>> The above link shows that it is possible (but still mixing style with
>>>>>> logic). Components needs  constructor method to build itself. Others 
>>>>>> methods
>>>>>> and attrs comes latter.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Again, sorry my english... I hope you understand the semanthic of my
>>>>>> words.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dirceu Barquette
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2008/12/17 Olivier Percebois-Garve <perceb...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Aptana does a good job for auto completion.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I you weant to learn the api for yourself, I think that
>>>>>>> visualjquery.com is excellent, I almost always have it open whilst
>>>>>>> developing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 8:22 PM, Dirceu Barquette <
>>>>>>> dirceu.barque...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'd like to know, please:
>>>>>>>> There is  {HTML,CSS,jQuery}library in [xml,csv,json]file format?
>>>>>>>> The goal is an IDE...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dirceu Barquette
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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