On Mon, 10 May 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > I think this is the final argument that wins many of the problems people
> > have posted here. There has been a thread concerning whether to provide
> > thread-safe abilities into the servlet engine for sessioning; I think we
> > should, especially if non-programmers are the ones using JSP; they
> > shouldn't have to understand difficult thread models to use our beans in
> > their JSP code! Another long-standing thread concerns scriptlets vs.
> > tags;
>
> > I think tags wins out for non-programming users.
>
> We agree hence the tag extension mechanism we will add in JSP 1.1
> will allow users to develop libraries of custom tags that will be
> portable between JSP engines and tools ...
>
>
> > There has also
> > been discussion of how embedded properties (i.e.
> > somebean:someproperty:another property) should be kept. I think they
> > should, since they are easier than using scriptlets for non-programmers.
> > By the way, why were embedded bean properties dropped for the 1.0 spec?
> > Are you guys working on a better way of doing this for 1.1?
> >
>
> Unfortunately we are opposed to the concept of embedded properties,
> they don't exist in JavaBeans, and exposing a new syntax seems
> redundant ... tools support can hide the java code ... so it
> does'nt seem necessary ...
The nice thing about embedded properties is that it this is the same way
that the Document Object Model (DOM) works with properties. I do alot of
Dynamic HTML work using JavaScript and the DOM, and like having the same
model on the server. Even though embedded properties "technically"
violates good object-oriented encapsulation, it makes for much more
readable and createable code. For example, tell me which is more
readable:
someObject.getProperty1().getProperty2().getProperty3()
someObject.Property1.Property2.Property3
>
> Rgds
>
> - Larry Cable
>
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