but neither has japan ever apologized for their atrocities during the
war to this day and even their history books leave out this part of
their history.  the US, however late and however hard they fought
agaisnt, has made some apologies and compensations to the japanese
americans they have interned during the war.

and is you are not familiar with what atrocities the japanese has done,
look into the rape of nanking and what they did with comfort women(sex
slaves) from korea.

thus ends the history lesson for the day.

Haseltine, Celeste wrote:

> Sanjay,
>
>
>
> The fact that we did drop nuclear bombs that killed and maimed many
> civilians is one that I am still ashamed of to this day as a US
> citizen.  Nor am I proud that we as a nation have never made a formal
> apology to Japan, as they have provided us for the bombing at Pearl
> Harbor.  But as my father pointed out to me (he was 12 years old at the
> time of the attack on Pearl Harbor), it was the only way we could bring
> an end to the war.   The two atomic bombs that we dropped on Nagasaki
> and Hiroshima were NOT a response to the attack on Pearl Harbor.  They
> were simply the most economic way AT THAT TIME, to bring to an end to a
> war that did bankrupt all of Europe, and almost bankrupted the United
> States.
>
>
>
> Celeste
>
> ----Original Message-----
> From: Sanjay Gomes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 11:09 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: OFF TOPIC: Terrorist attacks
>
>
>     I am sorry for again writing offtopic but couldn't resist a reply to
>     this,   I am neither a critic of the US nor a fanatic but ....
>
>     ..the facts are
>
>     The Japanese bombed the military targets in the Pearl harbour , and
>     in response the US dropped Nuclear bombs on two heavily populated
>     cities
>
>     creating millions of civilian casualties for times to come
>
>      -----Original Message-----
>     From:   Haseltine, Celeste [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>     Sent:   14 September 2001 17:00
>     To:     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>     Subject:        Re: OFF TOPIC: Terrorist attacks
>
>     To everyone on JSP Board.
>
>     I apologize for filling up the board with another response, and off
>     topic at
>     that.  But I am so tired of hearing how we in American may have
>     deserved a
>     taste of what many in other countries have had to deal with the last
>     couple
>     of days, that I had to respond to Isidoros.  My apologies to anyone I
>     inconvenience on the board today.
>
>     -----------------------
>
>     Isidoros,
>
>     I wanted to thank you for your expression of sympathy for those of
>     us here
>     in the US who did loose family, loved ones, and co-workers this past
>     Tues.
>     Fortunately for our company in Texas, all the employees of the
>     company that
>     we were working a contract with did manage to get out of the World
>     Trade
>     Center Towers and are accounted for.
>
>     What you say is very true.  We vote people into office in the US that
>     reflect the majority opinion of whatever political issues are at the
>     forefront during the election process.  We do hold a great deal of
>     world
>     power in our hands, and we often do force our views of democracy and
>     justice
>     onto other countries who cultures and views are different.  And, we
>     may use
>     our military muscle to protect our interests and the interests of our
>     allies, sometimes at the expense of the local people.
>
>     So some of the hatred that has recently been directed at us is
>     understandable.  But it is NOT excusable.  We are a country who
>     believe in
>     the rights of all free people to take up arms and fight for what they
>     believe in.  But terrorism in ANY form is a cowardly way to fight,
>     and it is
>     one that is without honor.  Back when the Japanese bombed Pearl
>     Harbor, they
>     freely and openly wore their national symbols on their planes, and
>     their
>     uniforms.  And they admitted that they bomb us.  Though the result
>     of their
>     actions were no different than the results that occurred on Tues in
>     NY and
>     Washington, DC, the Japanese were a people and country with honor.
>     They
>     fought and died for what they believed in, and we in this country have
>     respected them from the day they signed the armistice, up to the
>     present.
>
>
>     The people behind the attack that took place on Tuesday have refused to
>     stand up and admit who they are.  Because of this, many Americans
>     view their
>     actions, and whatever beliefs they may hold that lead them to the
>     attack on
>     Tues, in contempt.  They are cowardly, and are a people without
>     honor.  In
>     addition to the attack on US soil on Tuesday, these same people have
>     killed
>     so many others in so many countries, that it is time that we
>     globally take a
>     stand and put a stop to terrorism once and for all.  That is why
>     NATO, and
>     many other countries, including those who are openly opposed to the
>     US such
>     as Libya, have joined the US in condemning what happened on Tues.
>     Whether
>     this will eventually lead to military action or not, it's hard to
>     say.  But
>     this American is willing to cast a vote for military action IF their is
>     sufficient evidence regarding who was behind this attack, and IF the
>     person
>     or persons responsible refuse to stand up for their actions and
>     beliefs in a
>     court of law (UN court or otherwise).
>
>     Thank you again for your prayers, and continuing praying that we as
>     a global
>     community can put a stop to terrorism once and for all without
>     resorting to
>     military action.
>
>     Celeste
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: Isidoros Vacropoulos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>     Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 1:48 AM
>     To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>     Subject: Re: OFF TOPIC: Terrorist attacks
>
>
>     Good morning,
>
>     I'm sorry that i use this list for telling my opinion about the
>     terrible
>     things that happened in USA. Whoever does not want to read this
>     mail, he can
>     just erase it. I don't think it is tiring to erase an email....
>
>     I would also like to express my deep sorrow to the citizens of the USA.
>     Maybe there are fellow subscribers that may have lost friendly
>     people or
>     relatives.
>
>     Secondly, i would like to say that i'm from Greece and i'm a Christian
>     Orthodox. After reading all these mails in this list, i would also
>     like to
>     say my opinion...
>
>     Noone in this earth has the right to feel happy for the dead people
>     and for
>     all the destructions in the city of New York.
>     N O O N E. Beyond religion, political beliefs and financial
>     situation , we
>     are all human beings and who are not given the right to feel relief
>     for some
>     people who die, even if their political or religious background is
>     not the
>     same to ours.
>
>     On the other hand, noone has also the right to decide an attack and
>     kill
>     innocent people.
>     Whether you want it or not, the fellow subscribers that come from
>     the great
>     countries, like USA,Germany,Great Britain and the other ARE
>     RESPONSIBLE FOR
>     THIS TRAGEDY TOO.
>     Voting for presidents and people in high places in the goverments
>     who decide
>     that they will bomb innocent people (YUGOSLAVIA, AFRICA....) is not
>     less
>     responsibility than taking this decision. I want to make clear that
>     i'm not
>     saying that USA got what it deserved....I don't think that human
>     beings are
>     the right beings to decide who has done wrong and who has done right.
>     I'm just saying that you are the one who voted for your presidents.Your
>     presidentd decided many bad things and attacks in the near past (and
>     noone
>     can deny it) and these presidents made so many countries,folks and
>     people
>     enemies of yours.
>     What i'm saying is that you gave the right to some people to hate you
>     because you made attacks that shouldn't have happened.
>     Whether you want it or not you hold the situation of the planet in your
>     hands. You can decide now what will hapen in my country in the next 30
>     years.If you ever understand the power that you hold in your
>     hands.............
>
>     Again, i want to express my deep condolences to the families of the
>     dead and
>     wounded people,
>     i'm sure that are deep religious people in my country that will pray
>     for
>     you.
>
>
>     Isidoros
>
>     (P.S)
>     I would like some fellow subscribers, especially from USA, to judge my
>     opinion.
>
>     Thanx
>
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