2009/6/9 Hendry Luk <[email protected]>:
> Gw dah sering liat banyak company yang strictly nolak any OSS part dari
> project yg dikerjain vendor2nya. They make it loud n clear. Terutama dari
> banking industry.

Banking industry yang pakek java banyak yang pakek OSS secara lansung
atau tidak langsung.
http://www.springsource.com/customers
http://customers.redhat.com/category/industry/financial/
http://www.pentaho.com/about/customers/

I can go on.

> Law suit cuma 1 hal. Future developments n needs yang gak compatible dengan
> policy OSS licensenya.. itu juga laen hal. Hal yang paling expensive buat
> mereka juga adalah gak ada pihak yang legally responsible terhadap OSS
> project. Kalo productnya ada flaw... worst casenya, lo cuma dapet response
> dari community... "yeah, send me the patch", "I'll look at it when i feel
> like to", ato "dude.. its free.. for god sake just take it or leave it. Or
> better, why don't you fix it and contribute something for what you get?".
> Kalo ada cacat, gak ada yang bisa dijadiin kambing hitam yang mereka bisa
> legally minta pertanggungjawaban.

Again back to this FUD.
Just choose OSS project that are backed by reputable team/company or
even better get a support contract.
redhat, Spring, SUN (for mysql), jetty.

If your statement is true, nobody will use linux.

> Banyaak banget client yang terang2an strict no-OSS policy. Mereka lebih
> prefer solusi2 official, misalnya dari IBM... yang akhirnya mereka complaint
> siapa bilang java murah? OS non windows juga larinya ke box Solaris yang
> anything but cheap.

citation needed.

> Di .net in particular banyak banget client yang strict no OSS, dan nolak2in
> project yang mengandung NHibernate, nServiceBus, Windsor, Monorail, n
> stuffs. Mereka demand product yg "official" (baca: keluaran redmond)... yang
> dah lengkap dari ORM, DI container, MVC dalam frameworknya.

That's because .net OSS movement is not as matured as Java.

> Kenapa ini lebih common di .net (daripada java)? Kenapa mereka pilih .net in
> first place? Because mereka lari ke .net justru karna solusi official
> non-OSS nya lebih gampang n murah (in fact, they're all free).

Is it because of legacy code?
The team knows microsoft stack very well
The company already pays a support contract with microsoft
After all, java as a language is not newer than other Mircosoft SDK and
migration works cost a lot of money and risks.

> Di pasar non-OSS kayak ginilah, keunggulan java (mix n play OSS products)
> justru jadi kelemahan.

According to who?

> Dan for all its worth, gw juga benci company2 yg ngelarang OSS.. karna
> hampir semua tooling favorite gw dari OSS.. Tapi alas, itu fact yg we have
> to live with.

Benci is a strong word :P

Regards,
Edward Yakop

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