Ok.. but thank you for working on it.

On your idea: I can not really imagine what you are talking about, i.e. 
how it would look like...

stefan

Larry Becker wrote:
> Hi Stefan,
> 
>  >What is the progress with the new (dynamic?) toolbar...
> 
> Well actually not much.  I wasted a lot of time on dreams and schemes 
> that didn't work out.  I think what is needed is a simpler method of 
> doing the same thing without so much overhead.  I was thinking that a 
> simple floating window with a pop-up menu of custom tools and a button 
> to activate it might do the trick.  Opinions?
> 
> Larry
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 9:27 PM, Stefan Steiniger <sst...@geo.uzh.ch 
> <mailto:sst...@geo.uzh.ch>> wrote:
> 
>     Hei Larry,
> 
>     on a bit different thing as you outline your current develoment goal...
>     What is the progress with the new (dynamic?) toolbar - so could we
>     include that in the next OJ 1.3?
>     Or do you think it is a bit obsolete, since a Jython script may do the
>     same? (I haven't tried it yet to make a script that generates a "merge
>     two polygons" button)
> 
>     @Peppe (sorry for highjacking this topic):
>     I have only checked the beginning of the OJ functions manual (first 10
>     pages). It will take a few more days (weeks) till it is done as I have
>     put preference for integrating the final OJ 1.3 functionality (Things to
>     be done are i18n of the Pirol image stuff - and checking what goes wrong
>     with the referencing, and finally Michaels Attribute plugin)
> 
>     stefan
> 
>     Larry Becker schrieb:
>      >  >That build comes with Oracle support that is missing from FWTools
>      > binaries.
>      >
>      > Yes, but you do have to have an Oracle client installed, and it it is
>      > missing a few of the other formats.
>      >
>      > In any case, I suppose this is a detail that can be left to the
>     user to
>      > resolve at install time.  I hope to write my driver to support all
>      > available ogr2ogr features (although you might have to manually type
>      > some parameters).  I do plan to package it up as a separate plugin
>      > bundled with binaries for Windows.  It should look a little like
>     ogr2gui
>      > when finished.  I'm going to attempt to avoid any JUMP specific
>      > dependencies so that it could run stand-alone if desired.
>      >
>      > Larry
>      >
>      > On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 11:44 PM, Rahkonen Jukka
>      > <jukka.rahko...@mmmtike.fi <mailto:jukka.rahko...@mmmtike.fi>
>     <mailto:jukka.rahko...@mmmtike.fi
>     <mailto:jukka.rahko...@mmmtike.fi>>> wrote:
>      >
>      >     Hi,
>      >
>      >     You may have a look also at the gdal binaries coming with ms4w
>      >     package http://maptools.org/ms4w/index.phtml. That build
>     comes with
>      >     Oracle support that is missing from FWTools binaries.
>      >
>      >     Here is the list of supported formats in FWTools 2.2.8:
>      >     C:\ohjelmat\FWTools2.2.8>ogr2ogr --formats
>      >     Supported Formats:
>      >      -> "ESRI Shapefile" (read/write)
>      >      -> "MapInfo File" (read/write)
>      >      -> "UK .NTF" (readonly)
>      >      -> "SDTS" (readonly)
>      >      -> "TIGER" (read/write)
>      >      -> "S57" (read/write)
>      >      -> "DGN" (read/write)
>      >      -> "VRT" (readonly)
>      >      -> "REC" (readonly)
>      >      -> "Memory" (read/write)
>      >      -> "BNA" (read/write)
>      >      -> "CSV" (read/write)
>      >      -> "NAS" (readonly)
>      >      -> "GML" (read/write)
>      >      -> "GPX" (read/write)
>      >      -> "KML" (read/write)
>      >      -> "GeoJSON" (read/write)
>      >      -> "Interlis 1" (read/write)
>      >      -> "Interlis 2" (read/write)
>      >      -> "GMT" (read/write)
>      >      -> "SQLite" (read/write)
>      >      -> "ODBC" (read/write)
>      >      -> "PGeo" (readonly)
>      >      -> "OGDI" (readonly)
>      >      -> "PostgreSQL" (read/write)
>      >      -> "MySQL" (read/write)
>      >      -> "XPlane" (readonly)
>      >      -> "AVCBin" (readonly)
>      >      -> "AVCE00" (readonly)
>      >      -> "Geoconcept" (read/write)
>      >
>      >     -Jukka-
>      >
>      >
>      >     Larry Becker wrote:
>      >
>      >      >Hi Jukka,
>      >
>      >      >>Conversion to gml and reading that instead of shapefiles
>     would be
>      >     better
>      >     choise sometimes...
>      >
>      >      >I agree, but it doesn't sound like GML is compatible
>     between the two
>      >     programs:  http://www.gdal.org/ogr/drv_gml.html
>      >
>      >      >BTW, here is a link to all of the supported formats.  I'm
>     not sure
>      >     how many
>      >     of the optional ones are compiled into FWTools, which is the only
>      >     practical
>      >     way of getting binaries. http://www.gdal.org/ogr/ogr_formats.html
>      >
>      >      >Larry
>      >
>      >      >On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 3:04 AM, Rahkonen Jukka
>      >      ><jukka.rahko...@mmmtike.fi
>     <mailto:jukka.rahko...@mmmtike.fi> <mailto:jukka.rahko...@mmmtike.fi
>     <mailto:jukka.rahko...@mmmtike.fi>>>wrote:
>      >
>      >      >> Hi,
>      >      >>
>      >      >> I may be difficult to decide which of the many ogr2ogr
>     options
>      >     will be
>      >      >> supported by user interface.  Perhaps there could be an empty
>      >     slot called
>      >      >> "og2oogr parameters" which just passes on everything just as
>      >     user has
>      >      >> written.
>      >      >> Some formats that ogr2ogr supports may have mixed
>     geometries, 3D
>      >     data or
>      >      >> several layers and making use of them simple may also be
>     a bit
>      >     tricky.
>      >      >>  Conversion to gml and reading that instead of shapefiles
>     would
>      >     be better
>      >      >> choise sometimes, but OJ needs those templates.  And writing
>      >     OpenJUMP driver
>      >      >> directly into ogr2ogr would need C++ programmer, I fear.
>      >      Anyway, your plan
>      >      >> will be a good start and it will also offer one way to write
>      >     data to Oracle
>      >      >> and PostGIS.
>      >      >>
>      >      >> -Jukka-
>      >      >>
>      >      >>
>      >      > -----Alkuperäinen viesti-----
>      >      > Lähettäjä: Larry Becker [mailto:becker.la...@gmail.com
>     <mailto:becker.la...@gmail.com>
>      >     <mailto:becker.la...@gmail.com <mailto:becker.la...@gmail.com>>]
>      >      > Lähetetty: pe 20.2.2009 22:13
>      >      > Vastaanottaja: OpenJump develop and use
>      >      > Aihe: Re: [JPP-Devel] Increased GDAL Java activity
>      >      >
>      >      > >Perhaps this could be done by simply making OS external
>      >      > >process calls, rather than in-process bindings to the
>     library?
>      >      >
>      >      > That is actually the path I'm investigating now. The import
>      >     utility would
>      >      > just script ogr2ogr to put the results as shapefiles in a temp
>      >     folder.
>      >      >
>      >      > Larry
>      >      >
>      >      > On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 2:08 PM, Martin Davis
>      >     <mbda...@refractions.net <mailto:mbda...@refractions.net>
>     <mailto:mbda...@refractions.net <mailto:mbda...@refractions.net>>
>      >      > >wrote:
>      >      >
>      >      > > Yep, I'd agree.  And for something so core to the
>     application,
>      >     I think
>      >      > > it's really important to preserve the 100% Java aspect, with
>      >     all the
>      >      > > benefits of platform-independence that it brings.
>      >      > >
>      >      > > Plus all that JNI hacking - brrrrrr!
>      >      > >
>      >      > > Format transformation is less core to the architecture,
>     so it
>      >     doesn't
>      >      > > seem unreasonable to look to GDAL to provide formats
>     which are
>      >      > > required.  Perhaps this could be done by simply making
>     OS external
>      >      > > process calls, rather than in-process bindings to the
>     library?
>      >      > >
>      >      > > Sunburned Surveyor wrote:
>      >      > > > Larry,
>      >      > > >
>      >      > > > I don't know much about GDAL, but I'm thinking it will
>     be a
>      >     lot easier
>      >      > > > to add deegree or GeoTidy/GeoTools CRS support to OJ.
>      >      > > >
>      >      > > > SS
>      >      > > >
>      >      > > > On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 9:05 AM, Larry Becker
>      >     <becker.la...@gmail.com <mailto:becker.la...@gmail.com>
>     <mailto:becker.la...@gmail.com <mailto:becker.la...@gmail.com>>>
>      >      > > wrote:
>      >      > > >
>      >      > > >> This post is continuing the debate/discussion about
>     adding OJ
>      >      > projection
>      >      > > >> support, and other interesting things that GDAL provides.
>      >      > > >>
>      >      > > >> I've noticed that Even Rouault has been giving the
>     GDAL Java
>      >     bindings
>      >      > > quite
>      >      > > >> a workout lately.
>      >      > > >>
>      >      > > >>
>     http://trac.osgeo.org/gdal/browser/trunk/gdal/swig/java/apps/
>      >      > > >>
>      >      > > >> Does this development indicate that it may no longer
>     be quite so
>      >      > > difficult
>      >      > > >> to add GDAL support to JUMP?
>      >      > > >>
>      >      > > >> regards,
>      >      > > >> Larry
>      >      > > >> --
>      >      > > >> http://amusingprogrammer.blogspot.com/
>      >      > > >>
>      >      > > >>
>      >      > >
>      >      >
> 
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