mhm.. doable for sure, but would this also shorten access-time to a 
function like "Merge Two Polygons"?

I understand it right now the way, that you right-click on that pannel 
and a popup menu opens?

How about text-only-buttons stacked? like these new fancy menus in .Net 
applications - but without the opening of submenus: see on the left
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Outlook_07.png


Larry Becker wrote:
> I was thinking of something like the attached OJ Geometry Function 
> dialog only mode-less (floating window).  The pop-up menu would contain 
> functions defined by users.  This way there is no need for making a 
> unique icon and you never run out of room on a tool pallet.  Clicking 
> the (TBD ) button would be the same as clicking a tool icon.  An example 
> of a custom tool might be: "Add a tree" which would input a point and 
> prompt for an attribute like species.
> 
> Larry
> 
> On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Stefan Steiniger <sst...@geo.uzh.ch 
> <mailto:sst...@geo.uzh.ch>> wrote:
> 
>     Ok.. but thank you for working on it.
> 
>     On your idea: I can not really imagine what you are talking about, i.e.
>     how it would look like...
> 
>     stefan
> 
>     Larry Becker wrote:
>      > Hi Stefan,
>      >
>      >  >What is the progress with the new (dynamic?) toolbar...
>      >
>      > Well actually not much.  I wasted a lot of time on dreams and schemes
>      > that didn't work out.  I think what is needed is a simpler method of
>      > doing the same thing without so much overhead.  I was thinking that a
>      > simple floating window with a pop-up menu of custom tools and a
>     button
>      > to activate it might do the trick.  Opinions?
>      >
>      > Larry
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      > On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 9:27 PM, Stefan Steiniger
>     <sst...@geo.uzh.ch <mailto:sst...@geo.uzh.ch>
>      > <mailto:sst...@geo.uzh.ch <mailto:sst...@geo.uzh.ch>>> wrote:
>      >
>      >     Hei Larry,
>      >
>      >     on a bit different thing as you outline your current
>     develoment goal...
>      >     What is the progress with the new (dynamic?) toolbar - so
>     could we
>      >     include that in the next OJ 1.3?
>      >     Or do you think it is a bit obsolete, since a Jython script
>     may do the
>      >     same? (I haven't tried it yet to make a script that generates
>     a "merge
>      >     two polygons" button)
>      >
>      >     @Peppe (sorry for highjacking this topic):
>      >     I have only checked the beginning of the OJ functions manual
>     (first 10
>      >     pages). It will take a few more days (weeks) till it is done
>     as I have
>      >     put preference for integrating the final OJ 1.3 functionality
>     (Things to
>      >     be done are i18n of the Pirol image stuff - and checking what
>     goes wrong
>      >     with the referencing, and finally Michaels Attribute plugin)
>      >
>      >     stefan
>      >
>      >     Larry Becker schrieb:
>      >      >  >That build comes with Oracle support that is missing
>     from FWTools
>      >      > binaries.
>      >      >
>      >      > Yes, but you do have to have an Oracle client installed,
>     and it it is
>      >      > missing a few of the other formats.
>      >      >
>      >      > In any case, I suppose this is a detail that can be left
>     to the
>      >     user to
>      >      > resolve at install time.  I hope to write my driver to
>     support all
>      >      > available ogr2ogr features (although you might have to
>     manually type
>      >      > some parameters).  I do plan to package it up as a
>     separate plugin
>      >      > bundled with binaries for Windows.  It should look a
>     little like
>      >     ogr2gui
>      >      > when finished.  I'm going to attempt to avoid any JUMP
>     specific
>      >      > dependencies so that it could run stand-alone if desired.
>      >      >
>      >      > Larry
>      >      >
>      >      > On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 11:44 PM, Rahkonen Jukka
>      >      > <jukka.rahko...@mmmtike.fi
>     <mailto:jukka.rahko...@mmmtike.fi> <mailto:jukka.rahko...@mmmtike.fi
>     <mailto:jukka.rahko...@mmmtike.fi>>
>      >     <mailto:jukka.rahko...@mmmtike.fi
>     <mailto:jukka.rahko...@mmmtike.fi>
>      >     <mailto:jukka.rahko...@mmmtike.fi
>     <mailto:jukka.rahko...@mmmtike.fi>>>> wrote:
>      >      >
>      >      >     Hi,
>      >      >
>      >      >     You may have a look also at the gdal binaries coming
>     with ms4w
>      >      >     package http://maptools.org/ms4w/index.phtml. That build
>      >     comes with
>      >      >     Oracle support that is missing from FWTools binaries.
>      >      >
>      >      >     Here is the list of supported formats in FWTools 2.2.8:
>      >      >     C:\ohjelmat\FWTools2.2.8>ogr2ogr --formats
>      >      >     Supported Formats:
>      >      >      -> "ESRI Shapefile" (read/write)
>      >      >      -> "MapInfo File" (read/write)
>      >      >      -> "UK .NTF" (readonly)
>      >      >      -> "SDTS" (readonly)
>      >      >      -> "TIGER" (read/write)
>      >      >      -> "S57" (read/write)
>      >      >      -> "DGN" (read/write)
>      >      >      -> "VRT" (readonly)
>      >      >      -> "REC" (readonly)
>      >      >      -> "Memory" (read/write)
>      >      >      -> "BNA" (read/write)
>      >      >      -> "CSV" (read/write)
>      >      >      -> "NAS" (readonly)
>      >      >      -> "GML" (read/write)
>      >      >      -> "GPX" (read/write)
>      >      >      -> "KML" (read/write)
>      >      >      -> "GeoJSON" (read/write)
>      >      >      -> "Interlis 1" (read/write)
>      >      >      -> "Interlis 2" (read/write)
>      >      >      -> "GMT" (read/write)
>      >      >      -> "SQLite" (read/write)
>      >      >      -> "ODBC" (read/write)
>      >      >      -> "PGeo" (readonly)
>      >      >      -> "OGDI" (readonly)
>      >      >      -> "PostgreSQL" (read/write)
>      >      >      -> "MySQL" (read/write)
>      >      >      -> "XPlane" (readonly)
>      >      >      -> "AVCBin" (readonly)
>      >      >      -> "AVCE00" (readonly)
>      >      >      -> "Geoconcept" (read/write)
>      >      >
>      >      >     -Jukka-
>      >      >
>      >      >
>      >      >     Larry Becker wrote:
>      >      >
>      >      >      >Hi Jukka,
>      >      >
>      >      >      >>Conversion to gml and reading that instead of
>     shapefiles
>      >     would be
>      >      >     better
>      >      >     choise sometimes...
>      >      >
>      >      >      >I agree, but it doesn't sound like GML is compatible
>      >     between the two
>      >      >     programs:  http://www.gdal.org/ogr/drv_gml.html
>      >      >
>      >      >      >BTW, here is a link to all of the supported formats.
>      I'm
>      >     not sure
>      >      >     how many
>      >      >     of the optional ones are compiled into FWTools, which
>     is the only
>      >      >     practical
>      >      >     way of getting binaries.
>     http://www.gdal.org/ogr/ogr_formats.html
>      >      >
>      >      >      >Larry
>      >      >
>      >      >      >On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 3:04 AM, Rahkonen Jukka
>      >      >      ><jukka.rahko...@mmmtike.fi
>     <mailto:jukka.rahko...@mmmtike.fi>
>      >     <mailto:jukka.rahko...@mmmtike.fi
>     <mailto:jukka.rahko...@mmmtike.fi>>
>     <mailto:jukka.rahko...@mmmtike.fi <mailto:jukka.rahko...@mmmtike.fi>
>      >     <mailto:jukka.rahko...@mmmtike.fi
>     <mailto:jukka.rahko...@mmmtike.fi>>>>wrote:
>      >      >
>      >      >      >> Hi,
>      >      >      >>
>      >      >      >> I may be difficult to decide which of the many ogr2ogr
>      >     options
>      >      >     will be
>      >      >      >> supported by user interface.  Perhaps there could
>     be an empty
>      >      >     slot called
>      >      >      >> "og2oogr parameters" which just passes on
>     everything just as
>      >      >     user has
>      >      >      >> written.
>      >      >      >> Some formats that ogr2ogr supports may have mixed
>      >     geometries, 3D
>      >      >     data or
>      >      >      >> several layers and making use of them simple may
>     also be
>      >     a bit
>      >      >     tricky.
>      >      >      >>  Conversion to gml and reading that instead of
>     shapefiles
>      >     would
>      >      >     be better
>      >      >      >> choise sometimes, but OJ needs those templates.
>      And writing
>      >      >     OpenJUMP driver
>      >      >      >> directly into ogr2ogr would need C++ programmer, I
>     fear.
>      >      >      Anyway, your plan
>      >      >      >> will be a good start and it will also offer one
>     way to write
>      >      >     data to Oracle
>      >      >      >> and PostGIS.
>      >      >      >>
>      >      >      >> -Jukka-
>      >      >      >>
>      >      >      >>
>      >      >      > -----Alkuperäinen viesti-----
>      >      >      > Lähettäjä: Larry Becker
>     [mailto:becker.la...@gmail.com <mailto:becker.la...@gmail.com>
>      >     <mailto:becker.la...@gmail.com <mailto:becker.la...@gmail.com>>
>      >      >     <mailto:becker.la...@gmail.com
>     <mailto:becker.la...@gmail.com> <mailto:becker.la...@gmail.com
>     <mailto:becker.la...@gmail.com>>>]
>      >      >      > Lähetetty: pe 20.2.2009 22:13
>      >      >      > Vastaanottaja: OpenJump develop and use
>      >      >      > Aihe: Re: [JPP-Devel] Increased GDAL Java activity
>      >      >      >
>      >      >      > >Perhaps this could be done by simply making OS
>     external
>      >      >      > >process calls, rather than in-process bindings to the
>      >     library?
>      >      >      >
>      >      >      > That is actually the path I'm investigating now.
>     The import
>      >      >     utility would
>      >      >      > just script ogr2ogr to put the results as
>     shapefiles in a temp
>      >      >     folder.
>      >      >      >
>      >      >      > Larry
>      >      >      >
>      >      >      > On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 2:08 PM, Martin Davis
>      >      >     <mbda...@refractions.net
>     <mailto:mbda...@refractions.net> <mailto:mbda...@refractions.net
>     <mailto:mbda...@refractions.net>>
>      >     <mailto:mbda...@refractions.net
>     <mailto:mbda...@refractions.net> <mailto:mbda...@refractions.net
>     <mailto:mbda...@refractions.net>>>
>      >      >      > >wrote:
>      >      >      >
>      >      >      > > Yep, I'd agree.  And for something so core to the
>      >     application,
>      >      >     I think
>      >      >      > > it's really important to preserve the 100% Java
>     aspect, with
>      >      >     all the
>      >      >      > > benefits of platform-independence that it brings.
>      >      >      > >
>      >      >      > > Plus all that JNI hacking - brrrrrr!
>      >      >      > >
>      >      >      > > Format transformation is less core to the
>     architecture,
>      >     so it
>      >      >     doesn't
>      >      >      > > seem unreasonable to look to GDAL to provide formats
>      >     which are
>      >      >      > > required.  Perhaps this could be done by simply
>     making
>      >     OS external
>      >      >      > > process calls, rather than in-process bindings to the
>      >     library?
>      >      >      > >
>      >      >      > > Sunburned Surveyor wrote:
>      >      >      > > > Larry,
>      >      >      > > >
>      >      >      > > > I don't know much about GDAL, but I'm thinking
>     it will
>      >     be a
>      >      >     lot easier
>      >      >      > > > to add deegree or GeoTidy/GeoTools CRS support
>     to OJ.
>      >      >      > > >
>      >      >      > > > SS
>      >      >      > > >
>      >      >      > > > On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 9:05 AM, Larry Becker
>      >      >     <becker.la...@gmail.com
>     <mailto:becker.la...@gmail.com> <mailto:becker.la...@gmail.com
>     <mailto:becker.la...@gmail.com>>
>      >     <mailto:becker.la...@gmail.com
>     <mailto:becker.la...@gmail.com> <mailto:becker.la...@gmail.com
>     <mailto:becker.la...@gmail.com>>>>
>      >      >      > > wrote:
>      >      >      > > >
>      >      >      > > >> This post is continuing the debate/discussion
>     about
>      >     adding OJ
>      >      >      > projection
>      >      >      > > >> support, and other interesting things that
>     GDAL provides.
>      >      >      > > >>
>      >      >      > > >> I've noticed that Even Rouault has been giving the
>      >     GDAL Java
>      >      >     bindings
>      >      >      > > quite
>      >      >      > > >> a workout lately.
>      >      >      > > >>
>      >      >      > > >>
>      >     http://trac.osgeo.org/gdal/browser/trunk/gdal/swig/java/apps/
>      >      >      > > >>
>      >      >      > > >> Does this development indicate that it may no
>     longer
>      >     be quite so
>      >      >      > > difficult
>      >      >      > > >> to add GDAL support to JUMP?
>      >      >      > > >>
>      >      >      > > >> regards,
>      >      >      > > >> Larry
>      >      >      > > >> --
>      >      >      > > >> http://amusingprogrammer.blogspot.com/
>      >      >      > > >>
>      >      >      > > >>
>      >      >      > >
>      >      >      >
>      >
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