On Tue, Oct 31, 2006 at 02:41:50PM -0800, johnf wrote:
> On Tuesday 31 October 2006 14:12, Marco van de Voort wrote:
> > I think full time python programmers are more rare than full time
> > pascal/delphi programmers.
>
> First let me say I'm not disagreeing or agreeing. But I hope it's true. I
> just
> wonder what evidence you have.
Local and national papers. Netherlands. NW Europe (NL, Germany Belgium
France) is said to be a Delphi stronghold though. (as far as you can speak
about Delphi strongholds nowadays, according to Borlands own remarks)
Of course .NET jobs (60:40 C#:VB.NET, nothing else) and Java, and then a
magnitude less C++, but that still outdoes Delphi at least 10:1, and VB6 is
also still in demand.
>From the scripting languages I see sometimes (regularly even) PHP experience
in the lower end webprogrammer jobs, but that is all. The big apps are all
made in ASP.NET. PHP is to set up a simple portal or forum. Seems to be the
difference between webmaster and webprogrammer a bit.
> I could use the evidence to support my next sale. And what area of the
> world does this apply. You know I just got off the phone with a
> programmer who said "working on a Pascal program! I gave that up with
> Cobol". When he realized I took offense he suggested that he had nothing
> against Pascal. Man would I like to change that kind thinking!
I from time to time see Cobol jobs in those newspapers. There are still
truckloads of Cobol code at financial institutions.
I've gotten remarks like that for 5 full days at the Systems 2005 fair last
year. If you got down to the bottom of that, it is usually based on a short
10 hr initial programming code in TP (that usually looked hopelessly old in
their eyes, euuh, because it then actually already WAS old). If you say
Delphi, the attitude already changes.
Despite all FUD, afaik Delphi is still development system number #2 by
sales, after MS' VS.
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